01-21-2004, 02:36 PM
Hello Thecla,
"Speaking as a rogue, I'm not so sure how I feel about that."
This really surprises me. I never thought that (bow using) rogue players would use peek-a-boo to catch witches. Isn't peek-a-boo about holding position right at a corner, swinging a weapon, until all witches have blindly walked forward and got beheaded, without the character taking more then a few hits? I've played some rogue too, and never liked seeing the most advantageous postitions (along a wall) made useless because some warrior was standing at the corner all the time. In fact, this new feature was implemented on behalve of rogues, and because the old tactic was imo not completely free of cheese.
So let me explain a bit about this new AI. It's not that witches no longer come around corners in the new Dark. They just keep a distance if someone is too close behind the corner, or they will cautiously try to go around in a wider arc. If you retreat from such a situation, the witches (goat archers too, btw) will pause a moment to allow for distance, and then follow. This behaviour depends on the monsters subtype, so you won't notice much of it early on. Rogues and other ranged characters can benefit from all this by choosing the right positions and shooting the then more hesitating witches. I agree it makes things harder for melee characters: those are now forced to practice the more joyful sport of luring, hunting, and cornering girls. Btw, not all shooting monster types have become smarter and many will still happily walk into the path of swinging swords and axes.
"Btw, what did your post have to do with drake charges anyway?"
It was addressing your remark on Alt keys and running in town, which, like this reply of mine, didn't have much place in this thread either ;)
"Speaking as a rogue, I'm not so sure how I feel about that."
This really surprises me. I never thought that (bow using) rogue players would use peek-a-boo to catch witches. Isn't peek-a-boo about holding position right at a corner, swinging a weapon, until all witches have blindly walked forward and got beheaded, without the character taking more then a few hits? I've played some rogue too, and never liked seeing the most advantageous postitions (along a wall) made useless because some warrior was standing at the corner all the time. In fact, this new feature was implemented on behalve of rogues, and because the old tactic was imo not completely free of cheese.
So let me explain a bit about this new AI. It's not that witches no longer come around corners in the new Dark. They just keep a distance if someone is too close behind the corner, or they will cautiously try to go around in a wider arc. If you retreat from such a situation, the witches (goat archers too, btw) will pause a moment to allow for distance, and then follow. This behaviour depends on the monsters subtype, so you won't notice much of it early on. Rogues and other ranged characters can benefit from all this by choosing the right positions and shooting the then more hesitating witches. I agree it makes things harder for melee characters: those are now forced to practice the more joyful sport of luring, hunting, and cornering girls. Btw, not all shooting monster types have become smarter and many will still happily walk into the path of swinging swords and axes.
"Btw, what did your post have to do with drake charges anyway?"
It was addressing your remark on Alt keys and running in town, which, like this reply of mine, didn't have much place in this thread either ;)