05-13-2006, 05:40 AM
Olon97,May 11 2006, 01:23 PM Wrote:Orcs being not so bad morally in WC3&WoW
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Alliance players still hate those horde Orc (*$&(&*# :D
It is still retconning, and sometimes, poorly.
Quote:I like moral complexity in lore
The sargeras / eredar change makes it less complex, not more.
I played all the major WC games, WC, II:ToW/IIx:TDP, III/IIIx:FT, and most of WoW. I have their manuals too.
The deathwing/nefarian change made me wince, but I'll bite. His origins in WCIIx didn't specifially say the orc homeworld, but he did seem evil of his own choice. Twisted by someone else? That's ok. Some backstory wasn't filled in yet, and this didn't change his appearance on Draenor. Dragons were already in WCII, controlled by orcs via their queen. Deathwing was a badass dragon of his own evil will with cool voice quotes.
Quote:History is only as good as the accuracy of your sources. Sargeras corrupting the Eredar or vice versa?
Since the 'eredar' are newly written by blizzard, they're the hackjob. We're not talking about history by different people over long periods of time with better pracitces, technology and cultural perspectives. We've got the same company overwriting their previous works within a short timespan. Sargeras existed as a corrupted by others god and champion before of this dimensional ship, other draenor races survived nonsense. Guldan in WCII raised an entire island from the ocean for the Tomb of Sargeras. In a cinematic, he conjured open the tomb gates" entered it, faced a demon inside and offcamera went splat. The demon he faced was too much for him. (Daemons in WCI rocked hard as an 'ultimate summon' , more individually powerful than any other melee unit, but were extremely weak flying creatures in WCII).
Quote:When WC3 came I thought the night elves to be a poorly crafted plot twist. However it played out better than I thought it would. I enjoyed playing WC3 and following its storyline.
That's pretty much my attitude too. I enjoyed it overall. I wasn't stunned or amazed however. Some of it was just... lame. Now I realize there was definitely early teen targetting. Downfall of a great and noble king is one epic tragedy everyone with wit appreciates. Spoiled child prince going beserk? There's nothing fun to watch about Arthas. Girl mage, practically royalty, in a 'secret love' with the psycho emo boy 'paladin' prince? That's a teen melodrama. So so shallow <_< Luckily the human campaign wasn't the only plot around