02-22-2004, 08:34 AM
>Wow, somebody's gettin' all riled up. Ok, now some words regarding the "stupid" issue at hand.
I am not riled up nor did I imply that anyone is stupid and it might not be the best word (hence the "" use which was the best I could think up), but the idea that Blizzard make a game were drops are quite hard and rare (for good stuff) if you look at single player and even open multi player were many would probably play mostly with some friends. So rare that for practical purposes most playing it will never see most items and collecting most sets is a joke even thiniking on. And then have the same for realm were trading is easier and more common and hence rarity is needed to make a slight change so that it get a tiny bit harder to get some items if you play in a specific way (runs) which in itself is not that hard to check in a way that is not extremely easy to fool (kill 10 other monsters on the way, just an example) and have an end effect that over all is of no actual effect. Make it so small people hardly notice it and not making other general changes. That to me make absolutely no sense. As I said, it is actually not that easy to make some sort of run check. How would you implement it? I really can't think of anythin geasy that would not at the same time be even easier to trick. Alternatively make it so complex that it is again not worth it.
But hey, if people are happy thinking Blizzard has some small run checks and counters and only on realms and then switch it on and of and have hired a guy sitting tweaking drops all day on a more realm wide note but let him have vacation when the moon is full and it is an odd day, hey, be my guest. :)
>You know, the Blizzard developers are quite talented. Diablo II is a very complicated game. They could have come up with something
>very ingenious to achieve this "midly annoying" feature. It's not necessarily someplace you've looked before. After all, you haven't really
>taken a long hard look at the game code this time around, so it's quite possible you could have missed it.
It really isn't THAT complicated and the code is not THAT badly like spagetti. It is relatively easy to find something one look for and stuff aren't hiden away in hard to imagine places. If you want to have some special effect taking place when you create items and apply MF, there is really only one place to do it. One could affect MF directly of course in tons of places but it would be dead easy to see the MF value at that one spot it is applied at anyway and so on.
I am not riled up nor did I imply that anyone is stupid and it might not be the best word (hence the "" use which was the best I could think up), but the idea that Blizzard make a game were drops are quite hard and rare (for good stuff) if you look at single player and even open multi player were many would probably play mostly with some friends. So rare that for practical purposes most playing it will never see most items and collecting most sets is a joke even thiniking on. And then have the same for realm were trading is easier and more common and hence rarity is needed to make a slight change so that it get a tiny bit harder to get some items if you play in a specific way (runs) which in itself is not that hard to check in a way that is not extremely easy to fool (kill 10 other monsters on the way, just an example) and have an end effect that over all is of no actual effect. Make it so small people hardly notice it and not making other general changes. That to me make absolutely no sense. As I said, it is actually not that easy to make some sort of run check. How would you implement it? I really can't think of anythin geasy that would not at the same time be even easier to trick. Alternatively make it so complex that it is again not worth it.
But hey, if people are happy thinking Blizzard has some small run checks and counters and only on realms and then switch it on and of and have hired a guy sitting tweaking drops all day on a more realm wide note but let him have vacation when the moon is full and it is an odd day, hey, be my guest. :)
>You know, the Blizzard developers are quite talented. Diablo II is a very complicated game. They could have come up with something
>very ingenious to achieve this "midly annoying" feature. It's not necessarily someplace you've looked before. After all, you haven't really
>taken a long hard look at the game code this time around, so it's quite possible you could have missed it.
It really isn't THAT complicated and the code is not THAT badly like spagetti. It is relatively easy to find something one look for and stuff aren't hiden away in hard to imagine places. If you want to have some special effect taking place when you create items and apply MF, there is really only one place to do it. One could affect MF directly of course in tons of places but it would be dead easy to see the MF value at that one spot it is applied at anyway and so on.
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