Uber upgrade?

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really don't see how it is ruining the game for others
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Does it make others jealous
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any person that uses a duped item which they worked darn hard to get like by trading their rarer items for it, should have every right on using that item
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also think that there is only one way to not deal with duping and that is by doing exactly what gekko does. Don't play with those ppl. ignore bots by making lvl res games and password games

Right.

So you don't see how it ruins the game for everyone else, you think people who cheat or benefit from cheating have "every right" to do so, and that everyone who doesn't agree should be forced to change how they play to the extent of shutting themselves away in private games?

This argument is trotted out by every cheater (note: I am emphatically not calling you a cheater, here, you say in your post that you hate duping and botting so I assume you go to lengths to avoid benefitting from it), and it's flawed to the extreme. It's basically saying "if you don't like how _I_ play the game, go off and play it on your own".

It's made public games almost unplayable for the legit players - try playing with a BoTD-frenzier, and see how many steps you can take towards a monster before it's dead. Good luck keeping up with them as they speed offscreen towards their next target, too. It's made a mockery of the ladder race (it's not the only thing that has done so by any means, but it hasn't helped). So-called strategy guides which dictate equipment list the high-end runewords as if they are plausible to build your character around.

Meanwhile, people who just want to play the game are forced into solo play, single player, LAN multiplayer or things like the AB just to get the gameplay that _should be standard in a public game_. That is, after waiting a minute or so in the game creation queue.

Duping and botting doesn't ruin the game for others? Give me a break.