08-16-2006, 06:28 PM
Quote:2400 rugged leather, or given a roughly 80% drop rate from the yeti in Winterspring, 3000 yeti, so at an average kill rate of one per minute, 50 hours. Not horrible, especially since you can start/stop it anytime you like, or you can buy rugged leather off the AH at maybe 3 gold/stack of 20, or 360 gold.
For some classes, bear in mind, this is a necklace easily as good or better than a Molten Core epic.
Druids: cat form, +39 AP, +1% crit, 10 stamina
Rogues: +29 AP, +1% crit, 10 stamina
Warriors and Paladins: +20 AP, +1% crit, 10 stamina
Hunters: +38 RAP, +0.4% crit, 10 stamina
Epic necklaces:
Barbed Choker: +44 AP, 1% crit, +10 sta (drops from Fankriss in AQ40!)
Onyxia's Tooth Pendant: +12 agility, +9 stamina, +10 fire resist, +1% to hit, +1% to crit
Eye of Hakkar: +40 AP, 1% crit (no stamina!)
Blue necklaces:
Imperial Jewel: +32 AP, +7 sta
Mark of Fordring: +26 AP, +1% crit
Stormpike Soldier's Pendant: +18 AP, +15 sta
Will of the Martyr: +30 AP, +10 sta
Yes, the neck is not impossible to get, just tedious. However, for a warrior, his main asset gearwise is/are weapons. There is nothing short of raids that gets into the 60's except TUF, which no matter how much you try, does not fit into 1 hand. Blue one-handers stop in the low 40's, you know that. 5-10 mans, do not help. The high 50's epic 2-handers have such a low drop rate, that it is simply a question of huge luck to just get one after god knows how many runs and even that luck will simply give them a weapon that will be eclipsed relatively fast in ZG, let alone MC and up.
In any case, raiders who are in new guilds that go through all the pains of learning everything new, are very different from raiders who join guilds that already farm, wouldn't you agree? However, it is exactly those ppl that *do* join established guilds that get their items fastest. It is that last type of raider that I have a problem with and there's more than just plenty of them.
I don't understand why so many people get riled up at what I'm saying. I'm not saying that all raiders are skilless players with too much time on their hands, just too many. I'm not saying that raiders in general do not deserve good gear. All I'm saying is that there needs to be a semblance of parity, and in the state things are right now, there is none. In fact my problem is not really with raiders but it is with the whole WoW loot system. Hopefully, it will change for the better with TBC. See, I like PvP and I am excited by the promised changes as they will allow me to do what I want and can do and not be too gimped.
Let me elaborate a bit. At the moment, being on a relatively new PvP server, it is actually nice to go into WSG or AV (instant ques, btw) and be competitive. Almost noone has gear beyond URBS and even that is not common. Those few people that are doing MC, mostly do not have time to PvP, so they are not a factor. The low brackets do not have Crusaded-out twinks. Yesterday, several from my guild did ST. One of the ppl asked another in our party (who was being less then competent) if he's been here before. He said, no. On his old server, he just did the MC attunement and went straight to MC, or something close to that. This is what I'm talking about and it is too common. Too easy to get gear for raiders and impossible for non-raiders. When we start to raid occasionally, I'm sure we will work hard for it. OTOH, 6 months from now (well, that is under the current system), someone entering our guild and hitting 60 would have to put in very little except time.
-A