25 person max raid size for expansion

[Lissa]

Listen, you know what I say is true. Raids up to and including MC are easy-mode for established guilds and that is all I was talking about. Noone proved me wrong, because they were talking about something I was not. Now, I know you enjoy trying to contradict me, just so you can prove me wrong since you do not like me and my points of view in general and not just this. That's ok, the feeling is mutual. Now that we've established that, and I think denying it on your part would be dishonest, why don't you stop. This is frankly getting annoying and I do not respond well to being annoyed continuously. In any case, call it whatever you want, you can have the last word. I'm done.

You stated nothing about instance, you stated simply raiding. Here, let me quote you from your previous post:

Try - not even close. Try - no good weapons for a lvl 60, except basically unattainable GM weapons. Shall I continue? Besides, what makes you think that raiders deserve items that are so much better than non-raiders? 3/4 of a 40 man raid presses 2 buttons and at best knows how to follow directions and NOTHING ELSE. If you join a guild that has even ZG on farming status (and that's basically all semi-established guilds on semi-established servers), you will get better gear in a week than someone who does not raid and who plays 24/7 for a year.
-A

The above bolded indicates you know nothing about what happens in raiding. What happens on a number of encounters requires a lot more than just simply "pressing two buttons and listening". Case in point, I've been through MC on three classes, Warlock, Warriors, and Hunter. Each one plays a vital role and is doing a lot more than just pressing one or two buttons.

The Warlock has to keep the Lava Elementals and Reavers under control while trying to do DPS, this means that not only are you having to watch the mob the raid is killing, you also have to watch your target that you've been banishing and be ready to switch to the lava elemental or reaver at a moments notice, cause banishes don't last their full 30 seconds. The same goes for the Warlock on the Garr fight, you have to be awake and keeping your Firesworn banished and potentially helping with DPS. You also have to banish the Lava Surgers when the raid is working on another mob that patrol the instance at high speed and respawn every 30 minutes until Garr is downed.

For the Hunter, you play a role of keep Magmadar tranqed so that he doesn't eat the Tank. You could also be called upon to pull various mobs in the zone to tanks to either be off tanked or for the raid to demolish.

As a Warrior, you could be called upon to DPS or Tank as there are plenty of times where you have to act as a buffer for the raid, such as trying to get some aggro on those lava elementals and reavers so that if they break banish prematurely they don't go and murder the healers of the banishing Warlock.

You also have to be ready to move in the Mags fight, the Gehennas fight, the Garr fight potentially, the Geddon fight, the Shazzrah fight, the Sulfuron fight, the Domo fight, and the Rags fight. You have to be aware at all times what is going on.

And these are all things that you have to be aware of in the EASIEST of the 40 Man raid instances. If you had even experience raiding in MC, you would know how wrong your above statement really is. The fact that there is even more that you have to do in BWL, AQ40, and Naxx shows how little raiding is simply, "push two buttons and pay attention". Anyone here can go back and look on their first days of running these instances and remember how they weren't a joke (people running AQ40 and Naxx look back on MC as if it is a joke now, but it wasn't when they were just getting into it after just got their gear out of Strat, Scholo, BRS, Dire Maul, and others).

On a personal note, I think you've pretty much reached your limit with me. So from now on, I will ignore your posts and responses to me. You are of course free to contradict or taunt me in any way you want. Yeh, you can deny doing that too of course. Look at it this way, you join an elite company of people that I ignore here that includes Doc, Pete and several lesser personalities. I have enough aggravation in RL, why do I need to get aggravated here? Exactly.
So long and thanks for the fish.
-A

That's typical of you Ashock, take the cowards way out. Typical thick headed, I-don't-care-what-you-think attitude that means you will never really learn. Simply put, you get aggrevated because you are unwilling to see anything from another person's view point, you only want people to agree with you. Guess what, people have their own minds and have their own ideas, and those people that are willing to have an open mind can learn and grow, but that will never happen for you cause you're a narrow-minded individual.