Why the experience nerf

[kandrathe]

Society has its good and bad points and you can never take society without taking both. It is what it is.

Societies are groups of people who have an agreed standard of behavior, and those who do not follow them are punished, expelled, and shunned. Hence, my reference to arsonist. a PKer is not an arsonist, but both are pathological behaviors. A PKer is not a criminal like an arsonist, but they both have a callous disregard for others. The definition of anti-social.

PKs may not be "nice" people in your mind, but don't act like they are neccessarily immoral either. You may not agree with someone, but as soon as you impose your own set of moral standards upon another, you are in the wrong.

No, you are wrong. Only by having a morality, or norms and seeking to impose them upon others by consensus can a mob of people have a society. The group needs to determine the rules whereby all may be able to live together and achieve common goals. The griefer is an interloper who could give a rats arse about the norms, or the society, and only seeks discord and chaos. It is "immoral" only in the sense of the violation of the established practices and goals of the majority of players.

If everyone who disagreed with PKs just ignored them and quietly left the game without causing a fuss, they would quickly grow bored and you never again be forced to deal with them. They will never agree with you, accept this as fact. You encourage the problem by attempting to discourage it.

That doesn't work in the real world, and it will not in the fantasy world. Some jerks just get off on the pathetic sense of power that they get by being able to affect (disrupt, cause grief, etc) the experiences of others, whilst their victims are powerless to stop them. A bully, and a troll. Sort of like what happens to a online forum if no rules are enforced, and no mods ever intercede. Much like the difference between the mud pit of the DII.net or Battle.net forums, and the relative "decency" of the Lurker Lounge or Amazon Basin.

I don't think anyone is arguing that PK should be removed from the game, just that it would be more honorable to have a protocal when it is employed. I really do think that Sirian was right in that the game creator should be able to determine whether hostility would be allowed in a realm game, and also the game creator should have some basic "Admin" abilities over their game. In essence, the game creator should be the game moderator. Max's arguments to that were empty. If Blizzard would enhance the Battle.net interface and add some small features like that, this game would forge a huge loyal playing community.