01-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Skandranon,Jan 3 2006, 04:06 PM Wrote:Still on the fence with respeccing Katrin. I'd like to see what proportion of the Avarice pallies get Kings before properly deciding. I've worked up three options that I am considering.
Option 1. 31 Holy, 20 Ret. I heal, heal, heal, and solo ok.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...540050510000000
Positives: Improved Might and Wis, Holy Shock for insta healing, and all the healing goodies. Holy Power + Consecration means that my SoC/HShock will crit decently often in solo.
Negatives: No Kings. Requires Int gear even for soloing (and I don't have enough of that right now).
Option 2. 29 Holy, 11 Prot, 11 Ret. Raids love me. Solo? Not so much.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...550000010000000
Positives: Imp Might, Imp Wis, Kings. Lots of blessings to go around while retaining the majority of the healing power of the 31 holy build.
Negatives: No holy shock (not much of a loss). Very poor at soloing - yeah, I've got SoC, but not a lot of the good talents to make it useful.
Option 3: 30 Ret, 21 Holy. Solos much better. Raids ok, but not great.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...502350510003150
Positives: Vengeance and 2h spec for solo damage. Allows me to keep most of the Str/Sta gear I already have. Keeps some healing capability for raids.
Negatives: The only improved blessing is Might, limiting me to Might, Light, and Salv in raids.
It kind of depends on how much I intend to raid, and the answer to that is, some, but schedule limitations mean not a lot. But when I do come on raids, I don't want to be a liability.
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As for solo. If you get the +int gear from my limited testing on PTR a 31 holy build isn't that far behind a 30 ret build in DPS anymore. But you need to have benediction and improved judgement to make it work and it will chew the mana pool. Of course with the changes to SoC you need to judge more often to get 1.8 level DPS with a 1.9 ret build. At least I did.
Balador will be getting kings but Balador will likely see about as many avarice raids as Katrin so I don't know if that helps you all that much. So you might want to look at the DPS potential of holy again. Righteouness hits every swing now and in my, again limited, testing the DPS it did (since it scales with weapon speed) was very similar to what Seal of Command was doing. Keep in mind that Peacekeeper was my best 2 hander for testing, and I was using Thrash and some 35 DPS +22 AP green sword for one handers.
If you don't want to drink all the time in solo (something I never did in 1.8 but seemed to need more in 1.9) you'll need judge wisdom on pretty much everything but judged crusader + righteousness does a nice DPS job with a holy shock or judgement thrown in there. I think a heavy DPS build will need improved judgement and benediction though.
So what do those translate into for you. Well your raid build is very much like the one I posted earlier but you use SoC instead of HS/Righteousness for the damage. You might be better getting HS back. It gives you a solo damage/pull option and you can do the judged crusader/Righteousness, eve with a two hander. That combo was something like 110 holy damage added a swing with peacemaker. You get a bit better burst control with HS and judgements. Though the burst DPS you can do with a judge command on a stunned target is a fair bit to give up. You could just drop command and one point in benediction and max holy power then get holy shock. You might solo better that way and you get even more raid utility.
Your 3rd build is your strongest soloer as you said. I have found though that vindication procs frequently enough that it does actually have a noticable impact in PvE. It is still mostly a PvP talent though. But yeah you lose a lot of flex for raiding. I don't think losing kings will be that bad though.
Personally I think you might want to try the 2nd build with a few tweaks. Try life withouth Seal of Command and see how it goes. I'll help you raise the money to spec into what you posted if you really don't like it though. :)
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