05-26-2005, 09:30 PM
Gnollguy,May 25 2005, 11:34 PM Wrote:Where the hell did you get a thunder clap mid battle from? [right][snapback]78630[/snapback][/right]
Ok. There wasn't the word pull. I only saw charge, and assumed you meant intercept when I've been describing mid battle throughout because of a CC next to the healer.
Quote:If the warrior uses AoE aggros that don't break sheep
That's good. Ok, I've learned something new, in fights where its sheep and charge are in close proximity, you can do this.
Quote:I've been in long fights where the mages sheeped the same mob 3 times. It was never mad at the healer, it was mad it me or the mages when it popped and when I broke it with a sunder it usually didn't matter.
Breaking with sunder's fine. Let me show you when it *is* mad at the healer.
Our initial assumptions aren't the same apprantly. You assume a charge pull, TC first. I'm assuming situations where charges cannot be made, because its too dangerous to. Most of the time I don't see charge pulls because there are too many mobs to safely charge. If the mobs number below four... any tactics will work.
I'm assuming there are somewhere around 5-10 targets (UBRS situation), 1-2 sapped first, then warrior bow pulls, and 1-2 mages intercept poly. 10-20 seconds have passed at this point, and sapped targets will become unsapped in 15-25. 2-3 warriors are busy engaging 4-6 targets, 1-2 of which are priority. Those now unsapped targets, being away from the warriors all this time, must head toward healers, and they must become engaged or CC'ed.
At that point, those unsapped targets only gathered aggro from healers, as sap doesn't aggro. If the rogues are on the-ball, they'll stun-lock the now unsapped targets before the healer is attacked. Attentive mages will make a decision to either re-sheep their initial target, or change sheep to the target next to healer.
If you're lucky, you, or someone else, might get an aggro shout, or these enemies will be snared before they reach the healer and a priest can just fade and then the aggro is shifted. However, if its just a charm or poly alone, that's not enough aggro to shift away from the healer when it pops. Its been building aggro from a bow pull, then a second CC.
Same thing happens mid-battle when fearing general drakk's bodyguards if the guard has ran past healers. After one or two fears, they'll bee line directly for healers because its impossible for warriors to be everywhere at once.