Female Terrorist, Explosive Breast Implants?

[Jim]

Hi, ;)

Female Terrorist's Explosive Breast Implants? :w00t: Really?

What will they think of next?

Something to read this Holliday weekend :w00t:

British intelligence service MI5 has discovered that Al Qaeda female suicide bombers are getting explosive charges inside their breasts, using a similar procedure to breast augmentation. This makes bombs almost impossible to detect at airports. But there's something strange here.

The explosive devices are made of pentaerythritol tetranitrate—also known as PETN—one of the most powerful explosives in existence. The surgeons performing the operations—reportedly trained in the United Kingdom—place the PETN devices inside bags, just like the ones used to hold the silicone gel inside breast implants. PETN is difficult to detonate, however, even while it's more sensitive to shock and friction than TNT. It has an explosive energy of 5.810 kilojoules per gram, which means that an explosive cup C—with just a few grams of PETN inside—would be able to open a large hole in an airplane's fuselage, effectively causing a crash.

Allegedly, MI5—who picked up the information from Middle East terrorist chatter following the failed crotchbomber attempt—has also pointed out that some men terrorist are getting PETN-based devices into their buttocks, using the same surgical procedure.

Read the rest of the Story here:
http://gizmodo.com/5505499/female-terroris...implants-really
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ter...low-up-jet.html

[--Pete]

Hi,

Female Terrorist's Explosive Breast Implants? :w00t: Really?

Is this a day late?

Sure, PETN is a neat explosive. When the federal government mandated the elimination of lead based explosives (mostly lead azide), PETN was used as a replacement in a number of devices, like explosive bolts and through bulkhead initiators. But it usually takes a pretty good jolt to set it off. Like C4, if ignited in the open it will burn. Unlike C4 (which we used to burn to make coffee and heat meals), PETN can do something called deflagration to detonation transformation (DDT). Basically that means it goes from a fast burn to an explosion under certain conditions. But it still needs a pretty good jolt to set it off.

So, OK, PETN doesn't show up in metal detectors, etc. But the igniter does, as do the batteries, the capacitors, etc. needed to make the igniter work. Yeah, it can all be subcutaneous, like a pacemaker, but it will still trip a metal detector.

So, it's a toss up. April fool or attempt to sell airport detectors?

--Pete

[LavCat]

Hi,
Is this a day late?

Back in the fifties I believe, Mad Magazine had a piece on this: "And you, comrade, have been chosen to carry the bombs."

[--Pete]

Hi,

Back in the fifties I believe, Mad Magazine had a piece on this: "And you, comrade, have been chosen to carry the bombs."

Ah, memories. Spy vs. Spy. "Call me Fishmeal." Mad went far in instilling a sense of reverence and decorum in me. :w00t:

--Pete

[kandrathe]

Female Terrorist's Explosive Breast Implants? :w00t: Really?

I'm imagining the screening process changes to find these... "Pardon me Ma'am, I'm required to determine if these are fake, and to give you a sharp blow to the buttocks."

[Rhydderch Hael]

Didn't some geeks conclude a test where a comparable charge of the stuff was test-detonated in a defunct airliner, and the worst the charge did was flex the skin of the airplane (that, and turn the person sitting next to the pulverized schmuck into an instant qualifier for a handicapped parking sticker).

[--Pete]

Hi,

Didn't some geeks conclude a test where a comparable charge of the stuff was test-detonated in a defunct airliner, and the worst the charge did was flex the skin of the airplane (that, and turn the person sitting next to the pulverized schmuck into an instant qualifier for a handicapped parking sticker).

Here's a link to that test. That bomber used about 80g of PETN. If a breast implant is about 4cm in radius and about 2cm thick, then it has a volume of about 100cm^3. Two of them, filled with PETN at a density of about 1.8g/cm^3 gives about 360g of PETN, 4+ times what the underwear bomber used. In the test:

"Shock waves rippled through the exterior aluminum skin of the aircraft like fat water drops of water hitting the surface of a smooth pond.

The metal was permanently bowed out, and a handful of rivets were punched out, but no gaping holes appeared."

That indicates to me that the 80g were enough to drive the skin into plastic deformation. Increasing the charge four fold *might* be enough to blow one or more skin panels out.

Ah, well. Yet another reason to develop teleportation booths.

--Pete

[Drasca]

Ah, well. Yet another reason to develop teleportation booths.

But would you be satisified with destroying your current self and another copy would exist as you... or should the question be your new teleported self feel no remorse about chopping down old bonds with grandpa's axe to sail forth on the ship of theseus somewhere else?

Or perhaps future science will simply destroy the current understanding, thus making current speculation on self destruction for renewed existence elsewhere unnecessary?

Perhaps you'll bring up portable wormholes, and forcing the universe to move around you a la Futurama's space engine. Possible, highly improbable?

[--Pete]

Hi,

But would you be satisified with destroying your current self and another copy would exist as you... or should the question be your new teleported self feel no remorse about chopping down old bonds with grandpa's axe to sail forth on the ship of theseus somewhere else?

Gee, I've got someone else's marrow in my bones and his blood in my veins. Four titanium joints. Plastic lenses, not 'on' but 'in' my eyes. And a few other after-market modifications. I'm 10% toward becoming Darth Vader. Do you really think a little thing like being turned into information, smeared across the universe, and then reconstituted somewhere else is going to bother me? :w00t:

Heck, the new version might even be better than the original. As long as I think I'm me, that's good enough for me.

Been watching Caprica? :whistling:

--Pete

[kandrathe]

Or perhaps future science will simply destroy the current understanding, thus making current speculation on self destruction for renewed existence elsewhere unnecessary?

No, not science. The INTERNET!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8N6kIiRRHQ

See! Teleportation has been solved. Now, where can I get a giant loop antenna and two huge cocktail glasses?