Teenager repeats #Blacklivesmatter 100 times on Stanford application and is accepted
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...65591.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...-blackliv/


Stanford University admitted a Muslim teenager who wrote the phrase “#BlackLivesMatter” 100 times in his application essay.
Ziad Ahmed, a senior at the Princeton Day School in Princeton, New Jersey, said he was surprised the prestigious Palo Alto university let him in.
“I didn’t think I would get admitted to Stanford at all, but it’s quite refreshing to see that they view my unapologetic activism as an asset rather than a liability,” the high schooler told Mic.
The essay prompt was “What matters to you, and why?”
I submitted this answer in my @Stanford application, & yesterday, I was admitted…#BlackLivesMatterpic.twitter.com/R5YxM77bWL
— Ziad Ahmed (@ziadtheactivist) April 1, 2017


The 18-year-old said he wanted his progressive bona fides to come across in his essay.
“My unapologetic progressivism is a central part of my identity, and I wanted that to be represented adequately in my application,” he said.
Stanford probably got the message loud and clear.
Mr. Ahmed was recognized as a Muslim-American change-maker by former President Barack Obama at the 2015 White House Iftar Dinner.
He also spearheaded Martin O’Malley’s youth presidential campaign and then interned and worked for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s White House run.

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Wonder if this will work for my kids. My daughter needs to immediately stop trying to improve on her 4.3 GPA in HS and learn how to cut and paste.
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As a university administrator, I can tell you some things are pretty optional. We use the essay to determine a) the answer to the question, and b) whether to start them in composition I or II. The question we ask is about the journey on how the person came to choose our school. While, high ACT/SAT, achievements, HS GPA, essay and preparatory courses are review. Any might be waived by the Admissions folks if they believe the person would excel at our school.

"Of course, Ahmed’s essay is hardly the only reason he was accepted to Stanford. The 18-year-old Bangladeshi-American puts his beliefs into action in a seriously impressive way. Amidst juggling academics and extracurriculars, he found the time to lead Martin O’Malley’s youth presidential campaign, intern for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, and give a TedxTalk in Panama City about the impact of stereotypes on Muslim teens. Oh, and Obama invited him to the White House Iftar dinner to recognize Ahmed an a Muslim-American changemaker — but NBD.

He’s also founded not one but two teen-focused activism organizations, Redefy and JÜV Consulting. (Raise your hand if you feel like a major underachiever right now.)

Ahmed has also been accepted to Yale and Princeton, but he hasn’t yet decided on which school to attend."
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What will he have to write 100 times on the blackboard after class? Tongue
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(04-04-2017, 10:26 PM)Ashock Wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...65591.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...-blackliv/


Stanford University admitted a Muslim teenager who wrote the phrase “#BlackLivesMatter” 100 times in his application essay.
Ziad Ahmed, a senior at the Princeton Day School in Princeton, New Jersey, said he was surprised the prestigious Palo Alto university let him in.
“I didn’t think I would get admitted to Stanford at all, but it’s quite refreshing to see that they view my unapologetic activism as an asset rather than a liability,” the high schooler told Mic.
The essay prompt was “What matters to you, and why?”
I submitted this answer in my @Stanford application, & yesterday, I was admitted…#BlackLivesMatterpic.twitter.com/R5YxM77bWL
— Ziad Ahmed (@ziadtheactivist) April 1, 2017


The 18-year-old said he wanted his progressive bona fides to come across in his essay.
“My unapologetic progressivism is a central part of my identity, and I wanted that to be represented adequately in my application,” he said.
Stanford probably got the message loud and clear.
Mr. Ahmed was recognized as a Muslim-American change-maker by former President Barack Obama at the 2015 White House Iftar Dinner.
He also spearheaded Martin O’Malley’s youth presidential campaign and then interned and worked for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s White House run.

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Wonder if this will work for my kids. My daughter needs to immediately stop trying to improve on her 4.3 GPA in HS and learn how to cut and paste.

The thing I like most about your post is where you:

a) Automatically assume Mr. Ahmed didn't have as high of scores as your daughter
b) Ignore Mr. Ahmed's other accomplishments:

Quote:Mr. Ahmed was recognized as a Muslim-American change-maker by former President Barack Obama at the 2015 White House Iftar Dinner.
He also spearheaded Martin O’Malley’s youth presidential campaign and then interned and worked for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s White House run.
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(04-05-2017, 02:59 PM)Tal Wrote:
(04-04-2017, 10:26 PM)Ashock Wrote: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...65591.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...-blackliv/


Stanford University admitted a Muslim teenager who wrote the phrase “#BlackLivesMatter” 100 times in his application essay.
Ziad Ahmed, a senior at the Princeton Day School in Princeton, New Jersey, said he was surprised the prestigious Palo Alto university let him in.
“I didn’t think I would get admitted to Stanford at all, but it’s quite refreshing to see that they view my unapologetic activism as an asset rather than a liability,” the high schooler told Mic.
The essay prompt was “What matters to you, and why?”
I submitted this answer in my @Stanford application, & yesterday, I was admitted…#BlackLivesMatterpic.twitter.com/R5YxM77bWL
— Ziad Ahmed (@ziadtheactivist) April 1, 2017


The 18-year-old said he wanted his progressive bona fides to come across in his essay.
“My unapologetic progressivism is a central part of my identity, and I wanted that to be represented adequately in my application,” he said.
Stanford probably got the message loud and clear.
Mr. Ahmed was recognized as a Muslim-American change-maker by former President Barack Obama at the 2015 White House Iftar Dinner.
He also spearheaded Martin O’Malley’s youth presidential campaign and then interned and worked for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s White House run.

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Wonder if this will work for my kids. My daughter needs to immediately stop trying to improve on her 4.3 GPA in HS and learn how to cut and paste.

The thing I like most about your post is where you:

a) Automatically assume Mr. Ahmed didn't have as high of scores as your daughter
b) Ignore Mr. Ahmed's other accomplishments:

Quote:Mr. Ahmed was recognized as a Muslim-American change-maker by former President Barack Obama at the 2015 White House Iftar Dinner.
He also spearheaded Martin O’Malley’s youth presidential campaign and then interned and worked for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s White House run.

I assume nothing. However, I can guarantee you that if my daughter wrote "Blue lives matter" 100 times on her college app, she would not get accepted, nor should she get accepted. In a case like that, her grades just as his grades, should be irrelevant.

Now, do I think she would get accepted if she wrote "Black lives matter"? Probably not, but not definitely not. She is after all, white.

Would he have gotten accepted if he wrote "Blue lives matter"? I would guess, probably not, but I'm not 100% sure of this.

My main point here is not his racial or religious affiliation, although I'm sure it did play a role. It's the subject of his college app.

"You are, quite simply, a fantastic match with Stanford. You will bring something original and extraordinary to our campus – a place where you can learn, grow, and thrive.” - Really? Really??? If this type of an atmosphere in a place of supposed higher learning, is not indoctrination, I don't know what is.

I dunno, I can't be the only one here who finds this situation beyond insane and beyond unfair. Is this the type of world we want our kids to grow up in?
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(04-05-2017, 03:55 PM)Ashock Wrote: I assume nothing.

You assume that the essay was the tipping point upon which he was accepted.
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(04-05-2017, 07:35 PM)Tal Wrote:
(04-05-2017, 03:55 PM)Ashock Wrote: I assume nothing.

You assume that the essay was the tipping point upon which he was accepted.

And you will make up any excuse just so you do not have to accept the inconvenient obvious. The obvious is this. Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did. That's not clear to you?
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Allow me to repeat myself.... In big letters.

As a university administrator, I can tell you some things are pretty optional.


And, it turns out... This was an answer to one question on the application, NOT AN ESSAY so, another press distortion.

"Also, it's important to note that this response was one answer on one application. Not my college essay or etc. There's a lot more to it." -- Ziad

If you know anything about the young man, it is he already has a plethora of writing in public domain upon which you can draw from to assess his writing skill.

Regardless of his activism, and politics, he is a phenomenal scholar, and ANY school would hope to attract his caliber of academic excellence.

Is your daughter a contributing writer at huff post?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-mu...1f5257a189

Has she presented a TED talk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3c66GFN6qA
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(04-05-2017, 08:09 PM)Ashock Wrote: And you will make up any excuse just so you do not have to accept the inconvenient obvious. The obvious is this. Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did. That's not clear to you?

My daughter is currently getting ready to apply for colleges, and unless the recruiters are blowing smoke up our ass, grades, test scores, extracurricular activities all are weighted higher than the admission essay. So I have to ask you why you continue to discount his other accomplishments? Perhaps because it doesn't fit the racist narrative you're trying to promote?
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(04-06-2017, 01:10 PM)Tal Wrote:
(04-05-2017, 08:09 PM)Ashock Wrote: And you will make up any excuse just so you do not have to accept the inconvenient obvious. The obvious is this. Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did. That's not clear to you?

My daughter is currently getting ready to apply for colleges, and unless the recruiters are blowing smoke up our ass, grades, test scores, extracurricular activities all are weighted higher than the admission essay. So I have to ask you why you continue to discount his other accomplishments? Perhaps because it doesn't fit the racist narrative you're trying to promote?

Ask yourself this question. If this were not a blatant example of maintaining and propagating a left wing indoctrination environment, would his "application" elicit this reply from the university?

“Everyone who received your application was inspired by your passion, determination, accomplishments, and heart,” the acceptance letter read.

It added: “You are, quite simply, a fantastic match with Stanford. You will bring something original and extraordinary to our campus – a place where you can learn, grow, and thrive.”

I'm sure your daughter has excellent grades. Why don't you have her put "Whitelivesmatter" on her college app... forget 100 times, 10 times. See how much her grades matter when she gets no acceptance letters.

Are you this blind? Or do you simply choose to be? You see what you believe. You should be believing what you see.

Bye Tal.
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It's a popular right wing narrative that college is a left-wing indoctrination institution. But I wouldn't say its exactly correct. It is true that many college professors lean left, but that is mostly in the social science departments, and even there, there is still plenty of right-wing professors to be found (particularly in the fields of economics and business).

I would say a more accurate interpretation is that HIGH SCHOOL is a right-wing indoctrination session, where history, politics, and even art are taught from a very right-wing, reactionary, traditional or pro-capitalist perspective - and that socialism/communism are seen as the root of all evil. In college you just get a bit more of the other side that challenges all the crap you were taught and told to be taken as truth that you learned in high school. Further, in high school we are generally taught to respect authority and hierarchy, whereas college can (and sometimes) does provide a realm which challenges that notion. If anything, I'd say it simply brings some balance and the (possibility) of other perspectives that we don't learn in our primary education/high school. High school especially is designed to mold us into respecting authority so we can be good wage slaves and cogs in the system, though the indoctrination actually starts in grade school or even earlier.
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I wonder what Ziad Ahmed's reaction would be to the statement, "Jewish Lives Matter".
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(04-06-2017, 04:35 PM)Ashock Wrote:
(04-06-2017, 01:10 PM)Tal Wrote:
(04-05-2017, 08:09 PM)Ashock Wrote: And you will make up any excuse just so you do not have to accept the inconvenient obvious. The obvious is this. Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did. That's not clear to you?

My daughter is currently getting ready to apply for colleges, and unless the recruiters are blowing smoke up our ass, grades, test scores, extracurricular activities all are weighted higher than the admission essay. So I have to ask you why you continue to discount his other accomplishments? Perhaps because it doesn't fit the racist narrative you're trying to promote?

Ask yourself this question. If this were not a blatant example of maintaining and propagating a left wing indoctrination environment, would his "application" elicit this reply from the university?

“Everyone who received your application was inspired by your passion, determination, accomplishments, and heart,” the acceptance letter read.

It added: “You are, quite simply, a fantastic match with Stanford. You will bring something original and extraordinary to our campus – a place where you can learn, grow, and thrive.”

I'm sure your daughter has excellent grades. Why don't you have her put "Whitelivesmatter" on her college app... forget 100 times, 10 times. See how much her grades matter when she gets no acceptance letters.

Are you this blind? Or do you simply choose to be? You see what you believe. You should be believing what you see.

Bye Tal.
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Quote:Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did.
lemmegetthisstraight... He put #BLM as the answer to a question on the application on what "matters" to him. Is this a form of sacrilege in your world view? Shall we get out the Scarlet hashtags?

HAD he put, Bong, Weed, Girls, Beer, or Sex, then maybe the faux outrage, but wow, dare he actually care about a cause popular with POC then whoa. There is much wrong with the political diversions of the #BLM movement IMHO, but for those that actually do care about how people are treated, I give them kudos.
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(04-06-2017, 05:42 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: It's a popular right wing narrative that college is a left-wing indoctrination institution. But I wouldn't say its exactly correct. It is true that many college professors lean left, but that is mostly in the social science departments, and even there, there is still plenty of right-wing professors to be found (particularly in the fields of economics and business).

*ORLY?* Faculty Voter Registration in Economics, History, Journalism, Law, and Psychology

"The D:R ratios for the five fields were:
  • Economics 4.5:1,
  • History 33.5:1,
  • Journalism/Communications 20.0:1,
  • Law 8.6:1, and
  • Psychology 17.4:1.

The results indicate that D:R ratios have increased since 2004, and the age profile suggests that in the future they will be even higher. "
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I guess if you consider democrats as being left-wing it looks pretty unbalanced. But, I don't. The larger point though, is that in our elementary to high school years, we get a predominantly right-wing perspective of things. That changes a bit, more for some than others, when they enter college.
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(04-06-2017, 10:47 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: I guess if you consider democrats as being left-wing it looks pretty unbalanced. But, I don't. The larger point though, is that in our elementary to high school years, we get a predominantly right-wing perspective of things. That changes a bit, more for some than others, when they enter college.
I'd have to see a study of K-12 political leaning, but my guess would be actually they would also probably be left of center, but not so far as the post-secondary instructors. You'd mostly need to be at least "ok" with being in a union.

For clarity, lets refer to the definitions of Brian Patrick Mitchell. Although, many of these words can have convoluted meanings over time.

American political perspectives according to their regard for kratos (defined as the use of force) and archē or “archy” (defined as the recognition of rank).
  • communitarian : ambivalent toward archy, pro kratos
  • progressive : anti archy, pro kratos (democratic progressivism)
  • radical : anti archy, ambivalent toward kratos
  • individualist : anti archy, anti kratos (libertarian individualism)
  • paleolibertarian : ambivalent toward archy, anti kratos
  • paleoconservative : pro archy, anti kratos (republican constitutionalism)
  • theoconservative : pro archy, ambivalent toward kratos
  • neoconservative : pro archy, pro kratos (plutocratic nationalism)

Also, I find these only useful in exploring dimensions of ideology, whereas an individuals world view can be vastly more multi-dimensional.
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(04-06-2017, 04:35 PM)Ashock Wrote: Bye Tal.

I'm don't support racism. G'bye.
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(04-05-2017, 08:09 PM)Ashock Wrote: And you will make up any excuse just so you do not have to accept the inconvenient obvious. The obvious is this. Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did. That's not clear to you?

I find having to write an essay to get into a school a ridiculous thing. The guy was right doing what he did.

(04-06-2017, 08:51 PM)kandrathe Wrote:
(04-06-2017, 05:42 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: It's a popular right wing narrative that college is a left-wing indoctrination institution. But I wouldn't say its exactly correct. It is true that many college professors lean left, but that is mostly in the social science departments, and even there, there is still plenty of right-wing professors to be found (particularly in the fields of economics and business).

*ORLY?* Faculty Voter Registration in Economics, History, Journalism, Law, and Psychology

"The D:R ratios for the five fields were:
  • Economics 4.5:1,
  • History 33.5:1,
  • Journalism/Communications 20.0:1,
  • Law 8.6:1, and
  • Psychology 17.4:1.

The results indicate that D:R ratios have increased since 2004, and the age profile suggests that in the future they will be even higher. "

Republicans don't usually seems to be to fond of the scientific method so I don't find this strange.
We have the same in the Netherlands, and some people are complaining about it.....point is just the rightwingers don't feel like teaching kids for a not very high salary......so instead of blaming schools (this goes for elementary schools already) they have more left leaning teachers, it is better to tell the rightwingers to be less egoistic.
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(04-07-2017, 07:55 PM)eppie Wrote:
(04-05-2017, 08:09 PM)Ashock Wrote: And you will make up any excuse just so you do not have to accept the inconvenient obvious. The obvious is this. Noone, no matter what their color, political affiliation, religion or gender, no matter what their grades are, should be accepted to any semi-reputable, and especially highly reputable university after doing what this person did. That's not clear to you?

I find having to write an essay to get into a school a ridiculous thing. The guy was right doing what he did.

+1

It's bad enough we have to be saddled with mountains of debt to partake in something that is (or at least should be) a basic human right, then on top of that, we have to explain to the institution why we deserve to be there. It underlines one of the fundamental flaws of how education is viewed in a capitalist society: as privilege, rather than a right. And of course, its contradictory, since our capitalist lords and masters require us to attend and acquire a piece of paper if we want the "better" jobs yet most of us are forced into insurmountable debt to do it, if we can do it at all. It's why my generation and the one after are having kids later, and not buying homes, because of student loan debt in conjunction with stagnant and shitty wages cause our slave owners want to pay us as little as possible.

But I digress. This was yet another pointless thread that should never have been made. Ashock should apply to be a journalist at Fox News, or better yet, Brietbart. I'm sure they'd welcome him in a second.
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It does seem as if people are pressured into college, regardless of it working for them or not. A lot of propaganda in that sense? Both left and right.
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