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07-19-2003, 08:28 PM
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IIRC there has never been a +2 skills ring. (I haven't played D2 for a over a year until recently.)
So what is the maximum overall +skills a character can have now?
Necro: ??
Amazon: ??
Sorc: ??
Barb: ??
Paladin: ??
Assassin: ??
Druid: ??
edit: wait a minute... were there ever +2 skill rings? now I'm second guessing myself doh :blink:
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Without taking into account the hacked rings (ie occy rings) there has never been a +2 all skills ring.
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1.08 class-specific crafts could get +2 skills
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Yes, i had a crafted Ring which had +2 to Amazon skills and sold in on Ebay.
Thats a long time ago btw
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Sorcie (just an example)
+2 from harley's crest
+2 from chains of honor
+4 from dual bul-kathos
+2 from tal's ammy
+3 from occy
+1 from lidless
+40 from anihilus charms...
Total: +54 to all skills
Does anybody else find this "a little bit" alarming?
I know 40 anihilus charms are not likely to come by easy, but windforces and ik armors werent either, and i think there are more of them than actual characters on realms...
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07-20-2003, 05:44 AM
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Zzabur,Jul 20 2003, 05:26 AM Wrote:+40 from anihilus charms... You can't have more than 1 Anihilus Charms in your INV(same with gheed's chance). So it only plus 15.
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07-20-2003, 06:08 AM
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Zzabur,Jul 20 2003, 12:26 AM Wrote:Sorcie (just an example)
+2 from harley's crest
+2 from chains of honor
+4 from dual bul-kathos
+2 from tal's ammy
+3 from occy ---
+1 from lidless --- +5 from Mang Song's Lesson instead
+40 from anihilus charms... --- +1
--- + 1 fire Magefist
--- +3 all skills from 3 +1 charms of each tab
--- +1 Arachnid's Mesh belt
Total: +54 to all skills --- +21 fire/20 coldghtning
Does anybody else find this "a little bit" alarming?
I know 40 anihilus charms are not likely to come by easy, but windforces and ik armors werent either, and i think there are more of them than actual characters on realms... Wrong.
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Some possible stats...
Barbarian
+2 Arreat's Face (+2 more combat)
+2 Armor - various choices
+1 Arachnid Mesh
+4 Dual Bul-Kathos or 1.08 crafts
+2 Amulet
+6 Dual Heart of the Oak
+1 Annihilus charm
+4 skill charms (2 combat, 4 mastery, 4 war cries)
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+22 all skills effectively
Battle Orders
20 Base slvl
+6 Echoing Barb Helm (+3 war cries, +3 BO)
+2 Armor - various choices
+1 Arachnid Mesh
+4 Dual Bul-Kathos or 1.08 crafts
+3 Echoing Amulet
+5 Call to Arms (+2 skills, +3 BO)
+3 Echoing weapon or Heart of the Oak
+1 Annihilus charm
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45 + 10 from charms = 55 level BO
Battle Orders (non-barbs)
15 Base slvl (from Call to Arms)
+2 Call to Arms
+1 Lidless Wall
+2 Helm - various choices
+2 Armor - various choices
+1 Arachnid Mesh
+4 Dual Bul-Kathos
+2 Mara's Kaleidoscope
+1 Annihilus charm
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30 level BO
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Mang Song's Lesson, the new archon staff, has +5 to all skills, which beats having +3 on weapon and +1 on shield.
Arachnid Mesh the spiderweb sash also has +1 skills, which no belt previously had
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So I guess hell won't be that hard once people get +skills because of the rapid increase in damage when skills are pushed over 20+.
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Ice,Jul 20 2003, 06:27 AM Wrote:Battle Orders
20 Base slvl
+6 Echoing Barb Helm (+3 war cries, +3 BO)
+2 Armor - various choices
+1 Arachnid Mesh
+4 Dual Bul-Kathos or 1.08 crafts
+3 Echoing Amulet
+5 Call to Arms (+2 skills, +3 BO)
+3 Echoing weapon or Heart of the Oak
+1 Annihilus charm
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45 + 10 from charms = 55 level BO Any reason for not dual-weilding call of arms? That would give additional +2 to bo; pushing the total level to 57.
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If I'm not mistaken, the second call to arms will not add a further +3 BO, so with just its +2 skills it would be inferior to a +3 heart of the oak or echoing weapon.
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Battle Orders in 1.10:
2x Call To Arms [ Perfect ]: +26
2x Bul Katho's Rings: +4
Rare circlet with +3 BO / +1 Skills: +4
+3 Magical Amulet: +3
Barb Valor: +2
10+ Charms: +10
Total:
Level 20 BO
Total with Gear: 69
Level 69 Battle Orders. is the Max in 1.10
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07-21-2003, 10:02 PM
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Though the AS lists the skill boosts on Call to Arms as:
+2 To All Skills
+6-18 To Battle Command (varies)
+8-13 To Battle Orders (varies)
+10-13 To Battle Cry (varies)
The actual values in the runes.txt are:
+2 to All Skills
+5-20 to Battle Command
+5-15 to Battle Orders
+10-13 to Battle Cry
Maybe the AS is wrong, maybe it's outdated and maybe it's giving information from 1.10 final. However, it is not accurate to what the 1.10 beta MPQ says.
EDIT:
Some other information you have is also wrong. Circlets, for example, cannot have +3 BO. Barb helms can, but barbs only get +3 from oskill on Call to Arms. And if you have a non-barb, you also can't have any base BO skill. You're also missing the +1 belt and the Annihilus.
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kao,Jul 21 2003, 09:34 PM Wrote:Battle Orders in 1.10:
2x Call To Arms [ Perfect ]: +26
2x Bul Katho's Rings: +4
Rare circlet with +3 BO / +1 Skills: +4
+3 Magical Amulet: +3
Barb Valor: +2
10+ Charms: +10
Total:
Level 20 BO
Total with Gear: 69
Level 69 Battle Orders. is the Max in 1.10 Ok:
New total:
+3/+1 Helm: +4
+3 Amulet: +3
+2/15 x2 = 34: +34
+2 Armor: +2
+2 x2 Ring: +4
+10 Charms: +10
Total: 57.
Level 20 BO + 57 = LEVEL 77 BATTLE ORDERS.
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Correction: Add +2 More.
TOTAL: LEVEL 79 BATTLE ORDERS
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Did you read what he told you about call to arms having a +3 cap to barbarians? The + mucho is apparently for all non-barbarians.
I am guessing it might go to 58, maybe, if the second +3 from the second Call To Arms is added, even though there appears to be evidence that such is not the case from the above posts.
And while we are at it:
Is there something wrong with slvl 55 Battle Orders? :D
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Did you see the post above?
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And given the discrepancy between the +15 versus the +3/+2, I am going to suggest that the 55 or 57 number makes a lot more sense. :)
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What +3/2? Call to arm has +2 skills AND 8-13 Battle Orders.
Common sense ran away from you.
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