10-04-2005, 01:36 AM
Hyacinth,Oct 3 2005, 04:56 PM Wrote:The question of guild direction is important. We need to recognize that individuals have different desires for gameplay. Can those differences be accomodated in one guild? After all, that's part of why there are different guilds out there. I like to believe that there is room for "daily" raiders and those who don't want to raid every day, but would like to join a group a few times a week. To do that, we need to be tolerant of the desire to form a raid, and tolerant of those who want to do something else on some evenings. That also means that some days we may not get a raid group together.
Right now, we have some people on vacation and school pressures keeping others offline. That means the group is smaller than it might appear. That too is a reality we need to face. Judicious recruiting can help increase the pool of individuals that will be online, and thus the raid groups can be more predictable. Recruiting of good individuals may be the right answer - providing a solid network of people that can join for a raid, or for more casual gameplay.
Will we be a major MC raid guild? Honestly, I care about that less than having a network of individuals that I enjoy. Cyr would like to build the group to MC capability, and it can do so with time and care. But if we want to build the group skills to that point, it will take patience and instruction. It will take carefully guided raids where group expectations are laid out prior to each encounter area. It will take leadership from those that do want to build an MC capability. And it will take careful recruiting.
I'd like to see Moonwell Dancers be able to accomodate social gaming and the raid groups. I'd like to be able to join a raid group with guild members a few times a week. I'd also like to be able to play solo, with an alt, or just with a smaller group of friends on other days. My schedule is not going to be bound to Monday and Wednesday as open days. I don't want to have to commit that if I am online any other evening, that I will be in a raid group. Can we make Moonwell Dancers a guild that is capable of supporting this? I think the answer is yes.
The 7PM time can be a general meeting time for anyone who wants to go into a raid group. Most nights, a group should be able to be formed, as it has been. Those who don't want to join, should not feel pressure to join. Also, people should not actively recruit for instance runs at 7PM, although again, there will be some casual groups that will overlap for folks who don't want to do the raid run. With good membership, this should not be an issue.
Raid leadership should rotate - it is not fair to expect one or two individuals to always organize and manage the raids. We need a solid cadre of leaders - folks like Keshi, Zia, Friz, Cyr and a few more who will lead the raids. This will help provide variety, as well as a deeper bench of leaders.
We can not be a guild of all things to all people though. For individuals that want to have 15-40 person raids each night, we have a long way to go, if ever. There are guilds that are far more aggressive at raiding than we are. Those that are looking for that sort of very high-intensity experience may be better off in one of those guilds. I personally would like to keep the more casual and friendly atmosphere that characterizes Moonwell Dancers.
Let's hear your thoughts. What do you want from Moonwell Dancers?
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The Blonde has Spoken!!!
The guild will continue to have runs meeting at 7pm game time, HOWEVER!!, we will be flexible in what we do, if some people can't stay for 3hours, we'll go to a shorter instance, if there are more wanting to go, we'll hit UBRS, and if we have the people and the time, LBRS.
People in the guild are welcome to have GUILD runs going such as Dire Maul, it promotes us getting our own runs together for fun instances and gearing up. (not all good gear is from BRS/Strat/Scholo). PuGs are not as welcome, since if you are wanting to do runs, we'd like to have you with us. Friends also count on the list that is welcome for runs, if you're friend wants to hit BRD, go ahead and help your friend.
We deeply encourage you coming on runs with us regularly, but we'll understand if you're just too tired, don't have time, or have a real life. Our goal on these runs is to get geared up for FUTURE POTENTIAL runs while having FUN!!!!
And leaders of runs are expected to RESPECT other players at all times, and stick around for the ENTIRE run, unless all people are too pooped to continue. If things aren't going just right, gently mention ways to improve that. Also leaders are expected to explain certain things such as mobs that call for help, or special spawns like with the halycon encounter in LBRS. If you aren't telling people what to expect, you aren't leading. The leader needs to make sure that EVERYONE is ready for the next group of monsters, all is looted before going on to the next, or instructing that a portal is made out!!
If there is one person that is clearly acting weird, drawing aggro a lot, or not doing his/her job, just send a friends whisper "hey, can you please shoot a little later" or "buffs please :)"
Leaders should also make sure everyone is buffed and ready, if someone croaks, the leader instructs the rebuffing to make sure all are ready again.
AND THE BIGGEST THING IS!!!....
The leader must participate in the fun, even small victories, even wipes, and see the humor in it. Your job as leader is to promote us having fun while playing well!! People aren't going to come with us if the leaders make the run not-fun!! There are already a few people that have said that they aren't interested on raids because leaders have been overly serious. You CAN be serious about doing things well, without being so serious that the game isn't fun!!!
To Keshi, go buy Buffy the Vampire Season 7, and watch the whole thing. All 20 hours. You've got 50days played, you have time to watch it. Note that THE LEADER DOES NOT GIVE UP no matter how bad things are looking!!! You cannot lead if you think you are going to fail in the end!! Despite wipes, despite a lame group, you have to keep a face that you will win!!
If someone is new on runs but has started the invites, they will still be the leader!! If Hya was the leader of a LBRS run, but didn't know each part, he will lead group by group, and whisper someone that does know if there is something special coming up so he can tell the others what to expect!!
And to those that are on alts when we really need more people, big brownie points and hugs if you come fill our run. We can't make you come, but we can try to have the best run we can, which may not happen without you there.
If we all decide that our alts want to hit SM... we can cancel our raid run for alt runs!!
I will have more ranting later, but for now The Blonde Has Spoken and both Hya and Kesh are going to shoosh and let ME speak for the guild.
The guild's goal is to have fun, through semi-nightly raids, alt runs, and helping others level up. We will progress at our own rate to ZG/MCability, whether that's 3months or a year, I don't know, and I don't really care because we WILL get there in OUR OWN TIME.
And about learning raids and getting geared up, people are not going to want to come and raid and learn if there isn't fun in it. Keep it fun and lighthearted, and people will come more.
ALL questions you have about my plans for the guild will be addressed to me, and if I have anything to note to you I will do so.
Now can the superiority complex Kesh, you need to see some blue skies, and Hya, try to come on runs and have fun.
For now neither of you will lead runs for a little while until I figure out some specifics in my head, the leading will be on Me, Friz, Monk, Zia, and if the others want to lead, they can have their chance as long as they ask enough questions.
It's not the time you spend in someplace, it's the fun in that place that you have. 4hours or 2hours, I don't care about if it's going long or short.
If people are asking for help on guild chat, please help them. If you're just shopping in IF and someone needs a buddy for a quest, give them a hand.
HMPH
We'll have the disipline in time, but you'll have to be patient!!! Don't get grumpy if people don't know what you haven't told them, or don't know anyway. If you come down too hard on them, they will not continue to follow you to learn more!!
Have I said enough???! :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: