A Freebie Worthy of Deebye

[Occhidiangela]

WTF is wrong with the quote tag?

But I did think you were open minded and courageous enough for an open and frank discussion. No thrills involved, other than the joy of sharing free thought and discussion. Speak in hypotheticals if you will. Instead of answers, offer questions. I have yet to see you shy away from a subject or dance around an issue, but I see it now. This is very unlike you.

My muse vector varies in magnitude and direction. <_<

Yes, there is a lot more information out there now, especially with the internet, but how many people are actually reading it?

I have no idea how to measure that -- with a dipstick?

How do we as a society reawaken that lost curiousity? How do we retract all these years of puritanical don't even think about it or you will burn in hell attitudes?

The Sexual Revolution took care of that, or have you missed the essays on fellatio for diamonds in Vanity Fair ('99)or on orgasmic titillation in Cosmo (every issue) among other distinguished publications? I am not obliged to force a focus on sexuality down anyone's throats, preferring to leave everyone's comfort zone to their own judgment. As a feminist remarked in the early '80's "You are responsible for your own orgasm." If you don't seek more for your 'gasm, so be it, your loss. If you don't want to help your partner expand horizons i) that's selfish and ii) one may not get an encore chance. The information is out there, but not everyone is as obsessed with sex at an equal intensity. Not everyone waxes their car every other week, for that matter.

There are even folk in the medical fields that should know more about the human body than they do, but their own medical knowledge is held back on sexuality because of lasting puritanical standards.

Right, nuke Plymouth Rock, they are holding back America's sexuality. Maybe it needs another Rock to make a pair. Oh, and screw cancer, let's get America coming more often per hour of sexual activity. There's a metric I want to see the measuring stick for, or are we back to the dipstick thing again? :rolleyes: It's not just for science, it's for the come on good!

But try and get folk to learn about these things, or buy these books, and they are labeled perverts. And that is wrong. Being sexually curious does not make one perverted. There is entirely to much social stigma attatched to sexual curiousity.

In whose world are you living, Doc? That statement does not square with the world I live in.

To many pressures. To many shackles put in place, more often than not by our own parental figures in our lives. It is the mindset that we as a society create that defeats us long before we ever reach the point where we can go into a bookstore and ask if they have any books on advanced sexual practices. Or if we do buy them, we buy them from a direct mail order catalogue from the back of Playboy, sent to our homes in a plain brown wrapper out of shame.

Not everyone feels that sex is the same category of topic as the Super Bowl, Doc.

And don't get me started on Playboy. That only adds to the perversion factor.

Nonsense. The Playboy Advisor and Playboy Forum discussion, for about 30 years, 60's to 90's, were rife with interesting discussions on male and female sexuality, and erotic ideas. Xavier Hollander's Penthouse advice columns likewise. Other sources sometimes took more seeking, but were not hard to find: unlike a good man. Have not seen those mags much in the past 10 years, no idea what they have been doing lately.

And with things like female ejaculation, if you went looking for tapes or books with information, any guesses on what the percentages would be on how many of those resource materials would treat it as nothing more than a pornographic party trick? Or write it off entirely as nothing more than an oddity? While we have relaxed some of our sexual fears, we have let all of the wrong things in.

To misquote Tanto . . . "Who is this "we," Kimo Sabe?" American society is NOT homgenous, not even close, but if you see a conspiracy, feel free to get out the fedora, trench coat, and magnifying glass.

Out of our own ignorance as a society, when we relaxed some of these restrictions and started trying to bring back publicly available information on various sexual practices, how much garbage did we bring in as well as trash disgused (poorly I might add) as instructional?

Sturgeon's law strikes again, as in every human endeavour.

Because of our complete lack of any sort of real sexual education, and all this "self discovery" we have a new generation of complete n00bs that have just the barest hint of what they are doing in the sack, or at least they think they do.

Hehe, why do you think women tended to go for older men for all those years? Could it be the expected experience factor? It sure wasn't the back hair. :P

Much like real life, they get their ideas, views, and perceptions warped from all this mass media influx of garbage. With the overflow of crap, how can anybody tell what is real, what is good, and what is just plain wrong?
How many young men hold to the sexual ideals that women are meant to be bony blonde bimbos with 44 DD hooters and the secret to female satisfaction is, how does one put this delicately for the Lounge... Going off on her face?

Besides this being a gross assumption, the answer is "No clue, let's make that the topic for the next Lurker Lounge pole."

For every man out there that does poke his nose into a real book and try some experimenting, there are probably a hundred that do not.

If true, that's a crying shame. Not my effing problem, pardon the pun. You can lead a person to erotica, but you can't make 'em do that trick with the ostrich feather, the zucchini, and the electric toothbrush.

And for a lot of parents and educators, we have fallen into the same old trap that always get us...

"Who is this we, Kimo Sabe?" :blink:

My time is up. I have to go to a meeting. This has been a lot of fun playing in this sandbox. I don't often get to voice these opinions. I will return later to tweak your brains, challenge your thinking, and probably make some of you very very angry

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Occhi