Warlocks Getting Buffed

[MongoJerry]

Who said anything about winning? We made our defense against superior numbers because we're the only ones masochistic enough to do so, and few healers wanted to fight at the time. Alliance has more characters on our server, and generally less skill on average. We fought the good fight pre-patch, and boogeyed when it became overwhelming (3-4x odds).

You implied in your ealier post that the reason you didn't turn back the Alliance was because the town defence was made of warlocks. My comment is that I'd ask you to choose another class that you think would have turned back the Alliance at that moment in your defence of Hillsbrad. I suspect that the answer is "none," because overall the classes are pretty well balanced in WoW. Yes, things need tweaking, but overall, the balance is quite good. If you had said that you had managed to turn back an overwhelming force made of a mixed set of classes working together, I would be worried. But you seem to take the fact that you weren't able to win as an indication that warlocks are gimped characters in PvP. That's just not the case.

Paladins with immuniety shield ready, Ice block mages, rogues that can vanish, warriors with that break out of stun ability ready, mage blinking, druids beast form run (less reliable obviously, but we have a range of situations here)...

Paladins are about the only ones who could escape this situation (which is why it's incredibly laughable that anyone here thinks that Paladins don't have an escape mechanism). Mages only have a limited shot to get away if they happen to be facing the correct way away from the enemies (unlikely) and have a group of friendlies to blink to that haven't been overrun while the mage was in the block. Otherwise, they're toast the moment the ice block fades. Warriors will just get restunned and killed. Rogues can't vanish while stunned and anyway they'll have so many dots on them that they won't be able to vanish anyway. Druids can't transform while stunned and anyway they would simply be restunned once they do transform and killed. The fact is that a character of any class, except for paladins, is vulnerable when hit with "ranged stuns from five different directions." That is as it should be (except perhaps the paladin part).

Maybe that's just Omr, and the really good rogues I've played with. They manage to pop in and out of stealth scaring the enemy party into wasting aoe looking for him, movign their party out of position, and taking out anyone vulnerable. Quite an impressive feat to watch actually, but I suppose only the rogues I've played with do this. Obviously better in duo situations when available, but they can solo this way.

I see rogues attempting to do this and I suppose if they haven't given up on the tactic, they must have some success. The thing is that I always expect the rogue whenever I drink, so for one thing I don't go all the way back to the zerg to drink. Or in a pinch, I make sure to drink near groups of town guards so that when I do get attacked, I'll have a little extra help. The danger of being a solo rogue is that it generally takes too long to take someone down unless they're already at a sliver of life due to some other source, so the rogue is vulnerable to someone dotting, crowd controling, or placing a hunter's mark on them. Some rogues intentionally do suicide missions but other than in a spot with a nearby graveyard (Kargath with its nearby graveyard is a favorite camping spot for Alliance rogues), that doesn't seem a time-efficient method of getting kills. The tactic that I have seen work well is rogue teams, though. Pairs work well, but a group of three is just deadly. They can kill someone so fast and get away so fast that's it's quite impressive. Or, even better, one rogue can sap a person who might help the intended victim, then the group kills the victim, and then if there's time the group goes back to kill the sapped person.