05-11-2005, 01:53 PM
Drasca,May 10 2005, 08:02 PM Wrote:DoTs are easily removed though dispel and cleanse by priests and pallies. Ice Block/Wall (not sure of name) by frost mages.I'm sorry, which priest or pally ability removes curses? And are you seriously suggesting that ice block that has a 5 minute cooldown is a trump card for your instant cast dots? Every mage I have ever seen cast ice block in the middle of PvP died the second that wall came down since they had to face a fully healed and prepped for combat target the second they came out. In multiplayer PvP, it just gives you time to kill his allies.
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Drasca,May 10 2005, 08:02 PM Wrote:Forgot if feign death / disengage remvoes dots or not. They'll match your dots with drain shot or venom sting and a pet, so that's no easy victory using the 'good ole' charm.No, they don't. I find it hysterical that you're suggesting that a hunters single sting is a match for the plague of dots a warlock can toss out or that somehow a warlock can't match a hunter pet for pet. And yes, if you dot the pet and seduce the hunter, it's pretty much an easy victory. Dot the hunter and he has no escape mechanisms (turning on aspect of cheetah in combat is a death sentence).
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Drasca,May 10 2005, 08:02 PM Wrote:Rogues? You won't get to fear them if they have sprint. Seduce, maybe if she was invisible to begin with. Mid battle, he'll blind powder you and kill your pet.Blind lasts 10s. What do you have out, an imp?
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Drasca,May 10 2005, 08:02 PM Wrote:Am I missing any classes? Seduce is universally considered folly in warlock pvp circles for actual battle. There are uses in PvP but... its nowhere near an 'i win button' or even a 'marginally effective' buttonWell I have to say this makes me happy. Considering how effectively it has been used against me (my hunter has been killed enough by warlocks seducing him, killing off the pet, and then taking him down 2:1) that if you willingly choose to discard one of your most effective tools, I'm happy with it. My warlock likes it just fine as do the ones I PvP with.
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Warlocks aren't some kind of elite gods in PvP (no one should be), but they have, hands down, the best PvP spells in the game. In 5s, a warlock can drop an inferno and enslave the resulting demon. Curse of Doom is an instant cast death sentence unless the PvP group has a mage specifically assigned to watch for it standing in the back ready to clear the curse (something I've never seen). In exchange they have some harsh penalties including the soul stone issue which I will completely agree is a problem. Warlocks and Priests are best in PvP when supported by a group and aren't as great 1:1. But that's the trade off for being as phenomenal in a group as they are. Same reason they wear those big targets.