07-07-2003, 09:06 AM
Hey! So i'm the guy who quoted you :P
However, you can kill with a Minion-Mancer just fine. CE is sure handy for some spots (i think every Necro should have at least one point in it in 1.10) but you can play without it. The same problem with CE exists with minions, though- you have to get that first corpse. With minions it's a bit different, because there's more of a "numbers game" (have to outnumber to kill effectively) than with CE. Nonetheless, it is viable.
Too bad Bonespear can't do the job. I had two of its Synergies maxed and it was barely doing 1k/spear damage. I mean hell, my level 50 Sorc's Fireball does more than a totally maxed Bonespear.
Quote:One more thing. I think you give too much credit to blizzard assuming that they intentionally made CE balanced by making the rest of the necro's offensive capabilities incredibly weak. Do you honestly believe they intended for lvl 30 or so IM to be virtually ineffective in hell difficulty? By the same token, where is that sense of balance for other characters? I don't think it has ever existed. How else can you explain charged bolt becoming a tour de force?I don't think they intentionally did. I think they threw stuff out there for the Nec, then tweaked away until it was "balanced". Even if the balance means you either win or lose near-instantly with no middle ground, it's still "balanced". I think Charged Bolt being uber was a "mistake" on Blizzard's part. I don't think they realized how the +Skills, +number of bolts, and +damage would combine to create something very powerful. I think Fireball was the same way. It's like how a while back when poison was multiplicative, some Blizzard official said "we know just how much poison damage can do and it isn't broken" and then the next patch included something along the lines of "Nerfed poison damage... what were we THINKING?????"
Quote:And I still stand by that assertion. No, CE isn't 'broken', but it's incredibly unbalanced. It's indicative of the balance issues that remain. I wager that CE will become a huge crowdkiller even in 8 player hell if it is indeed fully restored and able to scale up to 8 player monster health.CE does scale with players again. It's very uber. It's a huge crowdkiller.
However, you can kill with a Minion-Mancer just fine. CE is sure handy for some spots (i think every Necro should have at least one point in it in 1.10) but you can play without it. The same problem with CE exists with minions, though- you have to get that first corpse. With minions it's a bit different, because there's more of a "numbers game" (have to outnumber to kill effectively) than with CE. Nonetheless, it is viable.
Too bad Bonespear can't do the job. I had two of its Synergies maxed and it was barely doing 1k/spear damage. I mean hell, my level 50 Sorc's Fireball does more than a totally maxed Bonespear.