Any car mechanics in the house?

[ShadowHM]

Like I said I am almost sure I live more to the north than any other lounger (maybe except for wcip angel).

Irrelevant. I didn't reference latitude. I referenced snow belts.

Anyway, I have heard in the many place I have been living so many people giving me the reasons for which they couldn't go by bike. (ranging from the south of Italy to the heart of Scandinavia). I find deebye's answer in that sense a lot more honest than yours.....he just says he doesn't give a crap and that is his fair right.

And your fair right is to belittle him. :rolleyes: And my fair right is to point that out. :whistling:

I also own a car and use it when necessary, it is just that we have a lot of really sensible discussions on the lounge and then reading that somebody needs the care everyday to do 5km seems to be a slap in the face for all of us.

Only when you fail to realize all of the relevant details of his situation...

(another remark about the safety issue.....if Toronto is anything like the US, traffic seems to be very safe (apart from there being no bike lanes).....I have lived through 20 km a day on a bike in the south of Italy.....any city that makes it difficult for bikes and focusses on car traffic will destroy itsself one day)

My congratulations to you for surviving your tour of Italy. However, just because Toronto has safer traffic conditions than the south of Italy doesn't make it actually safe to ride a bike. We are in the midst of a major debate about it here, due to a high-profile death recently.