09-08-2009, 01:20 PM
Quote:Thanks for sharing that opinion. You don't know the conditions under which you are expecting DeeBye to ride that bike. He lives in a snow belt. Holland*, AFAIK, never gets snow conditions like London, Ontario gets regularly each winter.
I also regularly drive a route that is less than 5 km. It would be extremely unsafe for me or my children to try to bike that particular distance here in Toronto.
You could have kept out of this thread altogether. You could have asked politely why riding a bike was not an option. Instead you chose to tell him he was worthy of ridicule. :(
On topic, DeeBye, I have a wonderful (competant and trustworthy) mechanic who has managed my vehicle issues for many years. He has a lot of experience with keeping older cars on the road. Unfortunately, he is a bit distant for you to consult... :whistling:
*or any other part of Europe
Like I said I am almost sure I live more to the north than any other lounger (maybe except for wcip angel).
And of course I don't expect everybody to go by bike all the time....especially with certain conditions (small children).
Anyway, I have heard in the many place I have been living so many people giving me the reasons for which they couldn't go by bike. (ranging from the south of Italy to the heart of Scandinavia). I find deebye's answer in that sense a lot more honest than yours.....he just says he doesn't give a crap and that is his fair right.
I also own a car and use it when necessary, it is just that we have a lot of really sensible discussions on the lounge and then reading that somebody needs the care everyday to do 5km seems to be a slap in the face for all of us.
As I said, I found deebye's reply honest although it makes me a bit sad: I don't mind so much from him as he doesn't get involved in the more serious discussions here (I would have flamed Kandrathe after a remark like that:)(although I am sure he is a heavy car user anyway:) )
But commenting directly on your remarks....I might start a thread on using bikes instead of cars. Point it it will be of no use.....even in Kandrathe's libertarian heaven the public can't even work on a better infrastructure that makes it easier for people to go around by bike.....and they better start working on it....when in 20 years energy is too expensive everybody has to take the bike.
(another remark about the safety issue.....if Toronto is anything like the US, traffic seems to be very safe (apart from there being no bike lanes).....I have lived through 20 km a day on a bike in the south of Italy.....any city that makes it difficult for bikes and focusses on car traffic will destroy itsself one day)