New Warrior Talent?
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Kjartan,May 13 2006, 07:32 AM Wrote:Assuming you are going for 31 points in Prot tree you wont be taking Vitality instead of any of those talents, you will be replacing the other crappy talents in the tree. Even if you take Shield Spec, Anticipation, Toughness, Defiane, Conc Blow you still need 9 points to get to Shield Slam.\[right][snapback]109775[/snapback][/right]

Or perhaps we're looking to be capable of fighting on our own, or PvP with our Protection spec, rather than be a turtle.

This means we can't get both Anticipation and Shield Spec, and also means that we're likely to not have Defiance and likely to have Improved Sunder Armor and One-Handed Weapon Specialization.

Currently, I think the talent needs a buff. If it was +10% Health, it would be just fine as-is. But, since it's just Stamina, I really do think it should be a three-point talent (call it 3%/7%/10%.)

As far as the Shield Slam changes, I'm not terribly happy with them. I believe that the Protection Warrior should live and die by his shield (it's just how I view them; Fury is defined as dual-wielding and screaming monosyllabic war shouts, Arms by a two-handed weapon the size of a small Bosnian village, and Protection as an impenetrable wall of some kind of ungodly tough metal), and think that Shield Slam's damage should be based off of the shield's Armor value (adding Shield Spikes into that damage.) Since this is being posted via a public computer, I don't have the time to go do the math at various levels of gear, but it's a significant improvement over the current variation, and keeps in-line with Arms and Fury instants. Using 33% (or one third) of the Armor value as the maximum damage (I'd say 25%-35% as the min and max damages), Draconian Deflector was somewhere around 630ish, and Elementium Trashcan was something like 1100.

In addition to this, we're still waiting on our magic defense talent. I've long thought that it should be a two-point talent, replacing Improved Shield Wall, that allows you to use 50%/100% of your total Block value towards direct-damage spells. This allows for a fair bit of magic mitigation through high Block values and Shield Block, while still allowing mobs and players to use DoTs or AE effects to deal full damage to us, and doesn't run the risk of being overpowered as a flat-out Resistance talent might be. It also fits the description of the Protection Warrior living and dying by his shield :)
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New Warrior Talent? - by MongoJerry - 05-11-2006, 09:53 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by lemekim - 05-11-2006, 09:59 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Olon97 - 05-11-2006, 11:05 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Artega - 05-11-2006, 11:12 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Kjartan - 05-11-2006, 11:16 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by ima_nerd - 05-11-2006, 11:19 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Kjartan - 05-11-2006, 11:28 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by ima_nerd - 05-11-2006, 11:34 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by MongoJerry - 05-11-2006, 11:36 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by MongoJerry - 05-11-2006, 11:41 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Olon97 - 05-12-2006, 12:01 AM
New Warrior Talent? - by Artega - 05-12-2006, 11:57 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Artega - 05-13-2006, 12:06 AM
New Warrior Talent? - by Kjartan - 05-13-2006, 11:32 AM
New Warrior Talent? - by Monkey - 05-13-2006, 02:55 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Olon97 - 05-13-2006, 04:28 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Mavfin - 05-13-2006, 05:00 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Concillian - 05-13-2006, 05:51 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Alram - 05-13-2006, 07:41 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by ZugzwangZeitgeist - 05-13-2006, 09:30 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by MongoJerry - 05-14-2006, 05:07 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Artega - 05-15-2006, 05:09 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Kjartan - 05-15-2006, 07:33 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Artega - 05-16-2006, 07:57 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Kevin - 05-16-2006, 09:20 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Concillian - 05-16-2006, 10:13 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Artega - 05-17-2006, 02:59 PM
New Warrior Talent? - by Berkman - 05-19-2006, 10:41 PM

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