05-12-2006, 10:41 AM
30/0/21 is a cookie cutter pvp no doubt. There is no +/- a few points, even your hardcore PvP friends acknwoledge the necessity of NS.
The reviews are supposed to break up cookie cutters. I know it did for druids, hunters, and priests. Paladins seemed like they were pulled in too many directions by unreasonable fans to me, but thats a different thread.
The problem for me, and alot of people on my server (and I can't wait for xserver BG's so we can really see who is the PvP bomb... oh I mean I really can't wait, I stopped my auto renewal subscription yesterday) is that absolutly zero, none, zip, zilch elemental talents have ANY relevence at all for raiding. No semi useful cross buffs like crit% on heals or mana pool, nothing. And mana tide IS a big deal. I've caved to the pressure to respec PvE, and most of the shaman in my guild have. And you know what? It works. We finished Nef our second kill after a bad shadow flame that left 15 people up (right after the constructs went down) and we couldn't have done it if the remaining shaman didn't have MT. The healers were scraping the barrel the whole way through, GMP everytime cooldown was up, and MT every 5 min. You say the alliance close out encounters where the horde dies at 1%... Well guilds that don't force a respec die at 1% where guilds that do pull it out.
At least GOA at 31 provided some kind of raiding justification for a deep enhancement build. I was really hoping for a druid style justification for 31 or at least 26 points in each tree for raiding. Instead we got a reinforcement of the already cookie cutters.
And by the way, elemental is Terrible for grinding. Mana efficiency FTL. Grinding is the one thing that enhancement is good at, and failing that, resto. And the nerf to WF will make elemetnal builds even worse at grinding/leveling, though I'm not really crying about it, just pointing it out.
The reviews are supposed to break up cookie cutters. I know it did for druids, hunters, and priests. Paladins seemed like they were pulled in too many directions by unreasonable fans to me, but thats a different thread.
The problem for me, and alot of people on my server (and I can't wait for xserver BG's so we can really see who is the PvP bomb... oh I mean I really can't wait, I stopped my auto renewal subscription yesterday) is that absolutly zero, none, zip, zilch elemental talents have ANY relevence at all for raiding. No semi useful cross buffs like crit% on heals or mana pool, nothing. And mana tide IS a big deal. I've caved to the pressure to respec PvE, and most of the shaman in my guild have. And you know what? It works. We finished Nef our second kill after a bad shadow flame that left 15 people up (right after the constructs went down) and we couldn't have done it if the remaining shaman didn't have MT. The healers were scraping the barrel the whole way through, GMP everytime cooldown was up, and MT every 5 min. You say the alliance close out encounters where the horde dies at 1%... Well guilds that don't force a respec die at 1% where guilds that do pull it out.
At least GOA at 31 provided some kind of raiding justification for a deep enhancement build. I was really hoping for a druid style justification for 31 or at least 26 points in each tree for raiding. Instead we got a reinforcement of the already cookie cutters.
And by the way, elemental is Terrible for grinding. Mana efficiency FTL. Grinding is the one thing that enhancement is good at, and failing that, resto. And the nerf to WF will make elemetnal builds even worse at grinding/leveling, though I'm not really crying about it, just pointing it out.