Fair and Balanced Reporting
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/fun.games/01/...t.ap/index.html
Quote:LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The city attorney's office has sued the makers of "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" for allegedly hiding pornographic material inside the video game, officials said.

Rocky Delgadillo said his office sued Rockstar Games and its parent company, Take-Two Interactive, for making misleading statements in marketing the game and engaging in unfair competition.

A telephone call made after business hours to a Take-Two spokesman in New York was not returned.


The lawsuit seems somewhat reasonable from a technichal standpoint, but what's with the part I bolded? Are reporters allowed to do that?

"It has been broadly suggested [by us] that one John Doe is a serrial sodomist. He has not replied to the letter we sent earlier today, and has so forfeited any defense of his precious, precious sodomy.

Tune in later as our panel of sodomy experts chime in about John Doe's personal life and from it conjure his pathology and character. And then weather."


Surely I'm not the only one this sort of reporting irritates... am I? :unsure:
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I think the liberal moonbats are going to be all over you mister and your negative implications of sodomy.
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The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

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Heh, yeah and they got Al Capone on an income tax evasion charge.

But c'mon now, video games -are- evil.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/st...462&k=77682&p=1

It's crystal clear that 'Need For Speed' blurred the teens ability to discern the critical difference between a tv screen and a car's windscreen.
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GenericKen,Jan 29 2006, 12:21 AM Wrote:Surely I'm not the only one this sort of reporting irritates... am I?  :unsure:
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You're not the only one.

Questionable practices such as this are one reason why I have long since stopped paying any attention to anything the mass media has to report.

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/delurks
Sometimes, it gets to me when games that try to make there enviroments in retrospect to having fun be more outlandish to real life, but when you add real life mixture to the mix of games that gets a rating M.. and yet parents still buy them for there children...
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GenericKen,Jan 29 2006, 01:21 AM Wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/fun.games/01/...t.ap/index.html
The lawsuit seems somewhat reasonable from a technichal standpoint, but what's with the part I bolded? Are reporters allowed to do that?

"It has been broadly suggested [by us] that one John Doe is a serrial sodomist. He has not replied to the letter we sent earlier today, and has so forfeited any defense of his precious, precious sodomy.

Tune in later as our panel of sodomy experts chime in about John Doe's personal life and from it conjure his pathology and character. And then weather."
Surely I'm not the only one this sort of reporting irritates... am I?  :unsure:
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Hammerskjold,Jan 29 2006, 06:01 AM Wrote:Heh, yeah and they got Al Capone on an income tax evasion charge.

  But c'mon now, video games -are- evil.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/st...462&k=77682&p=1

  It's crystal clear that 'Need For Speed' blurred the teens ability to discern the critical difference between a tv screen and a car's windscreen.
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As a dad, I am a little miffed by game companies making Rated T and Rated M games with the subject matter and heroes of children. Same with Happy Meal toys for movies rated PG-13 and above.

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GenericKen,Jan 29 2006, 08:21 PM Wrote:Are reporters allowed to do that?
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I don' know about the U.S. but over here, the reporters can get penalised for unbalanced reporting. They have to show "both sides" and the statement as such would be their claim that they attempted to get the "other side" of the story, to stop any legal issues from arising.
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>As a dad, I am a little miffed by game companies making Rated T and Rated M games with the subject matter and heroes of children.

? Sorry can you clarify that? I don't understand 'the heroes of children' bit.

Do you mean like a role model for children?
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Hammerskjold,Jan 30 2006, 12:34 AM Wrote:?  Sorry can you clarify that?  I don't understand 'the heroes of children' bit.
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I think he means games that feature characters that appeal to very young children, but content that is more suited to older ones.

edit: i posted this before your edit.
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Hammerskjold,Jan 29 2006, 11:34 PM Wrote:>As a dad, I am a little miffed by game companies making Rated T and Rated M games with the subject matter and heroes of children.

?  Sorry can you clarify that?  I don't understand 'the heroes of children' bit.

Do you mean like a role model for children?
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Dinosaur Hunting & Carnivores: Cityscape -- allow you to romp around as a Dinosaur

War of the Monster's -- same as the above.

Dinotopia: The Sunstone Odyssey -- Based on the very popular childrens books

Spiderman 2, Batman, The Incredibles, Hulk -- Typical superhero fare.

Jak & Daxster is rated E, but the sequels (Jak II, Jak 3, Jak X: Combat Racing) are rated Teen. Sorry son, I know you love the original, but the others will have to wait 7 years.
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Ah ok, thanks. (And thanks Dee.)

>Jak & Daxster is rated E, but the sequels (Jak II, Jak 3, Jak X: Combat Racing) are rated Teen. Sorry son, I know you love the original, but the others will have to wait 7 years.


Yeah, that is not an easy one. But from the sounds of it at least you are involved as a parent. Something that's always in demand but in short supply it seems.

Getting back to the original lawsuit story, basically I see it similar though not identical to the movies situation, specifically what used to be known as an X rating. I think now it's called NC-17. An AO rating most likely would've kept GTA out of most major retailers. That CNN link however, didn't mention the 'hot coffee' modification that is I think, key to the story.

Yes the 'porn' was embedded technically, but at least according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_coffee_mod it doesn't sound like it can be chosen right out of the starting screen. What I mean is, to the best of my knowledge it's not likely that a player can 'accidentally' unlock the minigame, by just using the game and the console\pc.
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Hammerskjold,Jan 30 2006, 02:02 AM Wrote:  Getting back to the original lawsuit story,  basically I see it similar though not identical to the movies situation, specifically what used to be known as an X rating.  I think now it's called NC-17.  An AO rating most likely would've kept GTA out of most major retailers.  That CNN link however, didn't mention the 'hot coffee' modification that is I think, key to the story.
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Don't forget, the makers of GTA have pulled some of the offending copies from shelves and replaced them.

What's next for these lawyers? Sue the makers of Tomb Raider because there is a mod on the net to make Ms. Croft appear naked instead of in her skin-tight clothing?
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jahcs,Jan 30 2006, 12:10 PM Wrote:Don't forget, the makers of GTA have pulled some of the offending copies from shelves and replaced them.

What's next for these lawyers?  Sue the makers of Tomb Raider because there is a mod on the net to make Ms. Croft appear naked instead of in her skin-tight clothing?
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What huh?

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All alone, or in twos,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad buggers wall.

"Isn't this where...."
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