However, I stand by, and even reinforce my use of the term elitist.
If my desire to keep the average b.net pubbie player out of my games makes me an elitist, than I'm proud to be called an elitist. I have no problems stating flat out I'm very glad the average b.net player never finds his way here (or leaves promptly when discovering he is not welcome).
Nope, you're not telling me how to play the game; that'd be constructive. You're just saying that my way is wrong.
I don't see anything constructive out of telling someone else how to play the game. If a player wants to hack and dupe to their hearts content, that's between them and blizzard -- I just don't want them having an effect on MY game.
Yes, but thus far you have been opposed to both, or so it has seemed.
It may seem that way to you, but in fact, that's incorrect. However, I will admit I understand why you could get that impression.
From a moral standpoint, I'm dead set against purchasing, trading, using, or supporting the use of hacked, duped, or botted items. That much, I think, is obvious (as are the reasons behind my feelings).
EDIT:: Concerning purchasing items that are legitimate (such as ebay, etc): well assume we KNOW the item is legit, for sake of argument. While I don't have a moral objection to this, I do have an objection from a realm gamer's viewpoint -- I do believe such sales are the first step towards establishing bots/dupes/hackers on the realms. So I personally wouldn't purchase from "legit" individual sellers, and I DON'T feel this should exist for a computer game; however, I have no specific moral objection to it. I just don't like it :). ::END EDIT
Concerning trading for items that are LIKELY to have been D/B/H'd: again, I'd dead set against these. If you can be fairly certain an item is illegitimate, you shouldn't use/trade/buy it. Such practices would be akin to passing around money you suspect to be counterfeit -- while much of new counterfeit money being passed around is nearly undetectable to the untrained eye, your morals should tell you that if you suspect a bill is fake, you should NOT continue to use the money.
The problem with high level runes, runewrods, and uniques is the scale of duping KNOWN to have taken place, and the level of botting KNOWN to BE taking place. It causes ALL such items to become questionable, and this is a shame. I feel blizzard has shirked its responsabilities, allowing such widespread dupes and bots to remain on the realms. However, I refuse to hide behind blizzard's apparent indifference. Deciding to participate in the purchasing/trading of items likely to be illegitimate, and blaming blizzard for their lack of enforcement, strikes me as simply dumping personal responsability for convenience. So I choose to not participate in such actions. If you choose to do so, that's fine; however, I expect you to at least acknowledge you are likely taking part in the trading of duped/botted items.
If you admit that, you either shirk your personal responsability, or you don't care about right/wrong in these cases. As I said previously, it's a shame the realms got to this state. However, that it's a shame doesn not change your personal responsability and your personal choices in this matter.
gekko
If my desire to keep the average b.net pubbie player out of my games makes me an elitist, than I'm proud to be called an elitist. I have no problems stating flat out I'm very glad the average b.net player never finds his way here (or leaves promptly when discovering he is not welcome).
Nope, you're not telling me how to play the game; that'd be constructive. You're just saying that my way is wrong.
I don't see anything constructive out of telling someone else how to play the game. If a player wants to hack and dupe to their hearts content, that's between them and blizzard -- I just don't want them having an effect on MY game.
Yes, but thus far you have been opposed to both, or so it has seemed.
It may seem that way to you, but in fact, that's incorrect. However, I will admit I understand why you could get that impression.
From a moral standpoint, I'm dead set against purchasing, trading, using, or supporting the use of hacked, duped, or botted items. That much, I think, is obvious (as are the reasons behind my feelings).
EDIT:: Concerning purchasing items that are legitimate (such as ebay, etc): well assume we KNOW the item is legit, for sake of argument. While I don't have a moral objection to this, I do have an objection from a realm gamer's viewpoint -- I do believe such sales are the first step towards establishing bots/dupes/hackers on the realms. So I personally wouldn't purchase from "legit" individual sellers, and I DON'T feel this should exist for a computer game; however, I have no specific moral objection to it. I just don't like it :). ::END EDIT
Concerning trading for items that are LIKELY to have been D/B/H'd: again, I'd dead set against these. If you can be fairly certain an item is illegitimate, you shouldn't use/trade/buy it. Such practices would be akin to passing around money you suspect to be counterfeit -- while much of new counterfeit money being passed around is nearly undetectable to the untrained eye, your morals should tell you that if you suspect a bill is fake, you should NOT continue to use the money.
The problem with high level runes, runewrods, and uniques is the scale of duping KNOWN to have taken place, and the level of botting KNOWN to BE taking place. It causes ALL such items to become questionable, and this is a shame. I feel blizzard has shirked its responsabilities, allowing such widespread dupes and bots to remain on the realms. However, I refuse to hide behind blizzard's apparent indifference. Deciding to participate in the purchasing/trading of items likely to be illegitimate, and blaming blizzard for their lack of enforcement, strikes me as simply dumping personal responsability for convenience. So I choose to not participate in such actions. If you choose to do so, that's fine; however, I expect you to at least acknowledge you are likely taking part in the trading of duped/botted items.
If you admit that, you either shirk your personal responsability, or you don't care about right/wrong in these cases. As I said previously, it's a shame the realms got to this state. However, that it's a shame doesn not change your personal responsability and your personal choices in this matter.
gekko
"Life is sacred and you are not its steward. You have stewardship over it but you don't own it. You're making a choice to go through this, it's not just happening to you. You're inviting it, and in some ways delighting in it. It's not accidental or coincidental. You're choosing it. You have to realize you've made choices."
-Michael Ventura, "Letters@3AM"
-Michael Ventura, "Letters@3AM"