Uber upgrade?
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Minionman,Jul 27 2004, 03:09 PM Wrote:Adeyke brings up Hitler, Adekye looses  :)
Adeyke's comment was refering to the fact that everytime someone tries defending purchasing items off of ebay or some website, they bring up the "I have a life, I bought because all it did was trade time for money." Much like "the hitler argument" this one is so commonly used (despite completely missing the point of the debate, in this case), it's hard finding the energy to bother arguing back. But for completeness sake :), I'll do so anyways.

You can come up with any justification you want for purchasing items from websites. However, what it comes down to is very simple:
1) you know these sites use bots, purchase botted items for resale, sell hacked items, etc.
2) without you and people like you purchasing these items, the market for such botted/hacked items does not exist.
3) Therefore, by purchasing items from these websites, you are providing supporting what they do and perpetuating their existance. In other words, you may as well be doing the botting/hacking yourself.

All the "time vs money" and "purchasing from 'legitimate' users" arguments fail to address this key point -- if you want to buy items, by all means, go ahead. However, don't try to convince me that this is ok. You are responsable for the continuing existence of the websites, and you are responsable for the huge market for hacked/duped/botted items. You can talk degree of responsability all you want (and I'll admit the responsability falls heavier on the botters themselves than on the buyers), however, you still shoulder some responsability.

To FenrisWulf: I agree that purchasing "legitimate" items is not the same as purchasing hacked or botted items. However, you can't hide behind the "I don't know the websites are selling hacked/botted items" argument. You have to use your logic. We know the websites out there are selling hacked, duped, and botted items. To deny this is simply ridiculous.

Finally, concerning communism. I was not attempting to compare buying D2 items to communism. What was I comparing?

How could Kramer not know communism was a big deal?
How could Unreal not know that buying items was a big deal?

It's not like this is a new issue, and it's not like he's new to these forums. Which is why I wondered originally if he had mentioned it purely to get reactions.

gekko
"Life is sacred and you are not its steward. You have stewardship over it but you don't own it. You're making a choice to go through this, it's not just happening to you. You're inviting it, and in some ways delighting in it. It's not accidental or coincidental. You're choosing it. You have to realize you've made choices."
-Michael Ventura, "Letters@3AM"
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Uber upgrade? - by Trobb - 07-23-2004, 01:12 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Grayloch - 07-23-2004, 01:27 AM
Uber upgrade? - by adeyke - 07-23-2004, 01:35 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Trobb - 07-23-2004, 01:46 AM
Uber upgrade? - by adeyke - 07-23-2004, 02:07 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Guest - 07-23-2004, 02:55 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Baajikiil - 07-23-2004, 03:36 PM
Uber upgrade? - by Dozer - 07-23-2004, 10:28 PM
Uber upgrade? - by Guest - 07-24-2004, 01:50 AM
Uber upgrade? - by adeyke - 07-24-2004, 02:10 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Munkay - 07-24-2004, 02:16 AM
Uber upgrade? - by NuurAbSaal - 07-24-2004, 10:43 AM
Uber upgrade? - by gekko - 07-24-2004, 01:03 PM
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Uber upgrade? - by gekko - 07-27-2004, 01:04 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Guest - 07-27-2004, 01:51 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Munkay - 07-27-2004, 02:29 AM
Uber upgrade? - by gekko - 07-27-2004, 02:45 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Fragbait - 07-27-2004, 06:24 AM
Uber upgrade? - by FenrisWulf - 07-27-2004, 07:41 AM
Uber upgrade? - by Munkay - 07-27-2004, 04:06 PM
Uber upgrade? - by nameless noob - 07-27-2004, 05:10 PM
Uber upgrade? - by adeyke - 07-27-2004, 06:41 PM
Uber upgrade? - by nameless noob - 07-27-2004, 07:03 PM
Uber upgrade? - by Minionman - 07-27-2004, 07:15 PM
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Uber upgrade? - by FenrisWulf - 08-01-2004, 06:22 PM
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Uber upgrade? - by gekko - 08-01-2004, 07:48 PM
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Uber upgrade? - by bigeyedbug - 08-01-2004, 10:30 PM
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Uber upgrade? - by gekko - 08-02-2004, 03:23 AM
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Uber upgrade? - by Trobb - 08-02-2004, 07:55 PM
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