This Thing You Call Aggro.

[Kevin]

I don't enjoy when warriors do that mid battle. End battle, intentionally popping CC is fine. Mid-battle, that CC'ed target needs to stay CC'ed until others are eliminated.

Where the hell did you get a thunder clap mid battle from? I said a charge pull, then clap. If you don't miss with your swing the mages can start casting the sheep while you are charging and the CC doesn't break. Of course it's stupid to break CC early.

If a target is CC'ed next to the healer, that's because its gone rogue and the healer's built the most hate, so its bee-lined toward the healer and the rest of us sheep/charm it.

That's right sheep don't wander. I forgot that. Sorry I keep forgetting how much better you see the battle.

My main beef is that warriors/hunters/etc try to aggro through attacks while the rest of us are trying to CC, thereby popping it that steps on our toes. In the few seconds you think you can get an intercept/TC in, I'm already casting and it'll CC/repop before you draw aggro. The problem is compounded if its a priority target, like firebrand invokers, or dragonkin taelons, which will aoe the entire party.
That's likely use of fade. Great skill, but not guaranteed to be available.

That's why I said it was part of the pull. Ask the mages who play with me. In the situations where this can be used it is a fantastic pull method. I don't clap if a mage was casting on the charge and I miss on the swing so don't have rage right away.

The problem lies in that the healer is on top of the hate list when battles longer than the initial CC. Unsapped, or Unsheeped, they charge toward the healer in an intense battle, then become poly/charmed again at the healer's feet, further building hate. Someone inevitably pops the second CC, and steals aggro but not before the healer takes a potentially fatal hit if the healer is right next to it.

If the warrior uses AoE aggros that don't break sheep (dem shout and piercing howl) this doesn't happen, they stay mad at the warrior. This is one of the reasons a warrior can tank better than a paladin, I have ways to get aggro without doing damage.

I've seen healers drop when they don't have to. That's my beef.

For engagements under a minute, sure you may have enough hate, but anytime where the mob has been CC'ed to near full duration at least once before--there needs to be some distance between the healer and the to-be-popped CC.

I've been in long fights where the mages sheeped the same mob 3 times. It was never mad at the healer, it was mad it me or the mages when it popped and when I broke it with a sunder it usually didn't matter.