08-08-2006, 10:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-09-2006, 12:58 AM by Concillian.)
I've been considering a few builds, and figure with 1.12 release likely within the next couple weeks, it's a prudent time for discussing them.
Background:
My rogue is not my most played character, check the profile below and you'll see her gear is not that great. Under the 'wish list' is stuff I might have reasonable access to, with the possible addition of revered and exalted AV items if I spend more time in AV. I left weapons the same, but consider the AH my primary source of weapons since the rogue doesn't do much instancing and if I do, I will generally pass anything really nice to toons that get more play than my rogue.
Current build is prep / cold blood with improved sap and 2/5 precision. No imp. backstab, I've basically never really used a dagger. When I got Julie's dagger as an offhand I had to do significant leveling of my dagger skill :blush:
I'm not averse to using daggers, just most of the playtime with this char is solo PvE, which, due to facing issues, seems to me kind of tough to do as well with a dagger as with a mace/sword.
As I said, I don't generally do a ton of instancing with the rogue. When I do, I'd say there's about a 50/50 chance it will be in a stealth group and sap will be a primary form of CC. So I lean towards keeping imp. sap.
Now I see a few options:
1) Keep a similar build to what I have now, gain a small amount of damage in subtlety due to the talent review improvements. Weapon improvements available through AH or potentially get into a Venoxis / Kurinaxx group for Ravenholdt
2) spec a heavy sublety build for hemo and deadliness. You can see I don't have tons of AP, but this might gain me more steady damage in trade for losing cold blood, a nice burst damage option.
3) Spec a seal fate build for solo PvE dagger. Assume I will grind AV for lobo in this case with several good off-hand options
4) Spec a combat sword build and assume I purchase krol or assassination blade MH and something like a hanzo or something off-hand
3 & 4 would obviously give up imp. sap.
3) looks the most attractive, due primarily to weapon availability, but I'm unsure about solo PvE with a 1.8 speed dagger, seems like having to SS with a dagger might be a loss in damage compared to cold forged hammer, even considering the ~6 DPS advantage lobo would have on normal attacks. The lower damage range and the lower AP normalization speeed seems like a liability... is the primary way to DPS with dagger in solo PvE to gouge, run behind then backstab?
4) might be better damage but would also be a cost in terms of AH-ing the weapons. Based on AH prices it looks like it would be about 300g to switch to swords with Assassination / Hanzo or about 550 or so for Krol + Hanzo. This would require similar grinding effort to getting AV exalted without the significant ring upgrade to go along with it.
Maybe I should just take the improvements in subtlety and go with somethign similar to what I have, or maybe a hemo build.
Any opinions on 1.12 primarily solo PvE builds to go for with crappy gear?
Background:
My rogue is not my most played character, check the profile below and you'll see her gear is not that great. Under the 'wish list' is stuff I might have reasonable access to, with the possible addition of revered and exalted AV items if I spend more time in AV. I left weapons the same, but consider the AH my primary source of weapons since the rogue doesn't do much instancing and if I do, I will generally pass anything really nice to toons that get more play than my rogue.
Current build is prep / cold blood with improved sap and 2/5 precision. No imp. backstab, I've basically never really used a dagger. When I got Julie's dagger as an offhand I had to do significant leveling of my dagger skill :blush:
I'm not averse to using daggers, just most of the playtime with this char is solo PvE, which, due to facing issues, seems to me kind of tough to do as well with a dagger as with a mace/sword.
As I said, I don't generally do a ton of instancing with the rogue. When I do, I'd say there's about a 50/50 chance it will be in a stealth group and sap will be a primary form of CC. So I lean towards keeping imp. sap.
Now I see a few options:
1) Keep a similar build to what I have now, gain a small amount of damage in subtlety due to the talent review improvements. Weapon improvements available through AH or potentially get into a Venoxis / Kurinaxx group for Ravenholdt
2) spec a heavy sublety build for hemo and deadliness. You can see I don't have tons of AP, but this might gain me more steady damage in trade for losing cold blood, a nice burst damage option.
3) Spec a seal fate build for solo PvE dagger. Assume I will grind AV for lobo in this case with several good off-hand options
4) Spec a combat sword build and assume I purchase krol or assassination blade MH and something like a hanzo or something off-hand
3 & 4 would obviously give up imp. sap.
3) looks the most attractive, due primarily to weapon availability, but I'm unsure about solo PvE with a 1.8 speed dagger, seems like having to SS with a dagger might be a loss in damage compared to cold forged hammer, even considering the ~6 DPS advantage lobo would have on normal attacks. The lower damage range and the lower AP normalization speeed seems like a liability... is the primary way to DPS with dagger in solo PvE to gouge, run behind then backstab?
4) might be better damage but would also be a cost in terms of AH-ing the weapons. Based on AH prices it looks like it would be about 300g to switch to swords with Assassination / Hanzo or about 550 or so for Krol + Hanzo. This would require similar grinding effort to getting AV exalted without the significant ring upgrade to go along with it.
Maybe I should just take the improvements in subtlety and go with somethign similar to what I have, or maybe a hemo build.
Any opinions on 1.12 primarily solo PvE builds to go for with crappy gear?
Conc / Concillian -- Vintage player of many games. Deadly leader of the All Pally Team (or was it Death leader?)
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.
Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.