Rogue 1.12 Preview

[Concillian]

Rupture: Rupture has the unique benefit of a steady damage per combo point -> 187. Whether 1 or 5, it's the same. This ended up meaning at 5 combo points, it was superior to Eviscerate (187.2 @ 5) because of armor, assuming Rupture stays up for 22 seconds. Due to energy considerations, the best boss cycle for non-Combat Dagger is 5/5/3 or 5/3/5, Rupture is better in these cases. Simply due to being a DoT, it looks to become completely inferior to Eviscerate in 1.12 again (like it was pre-raiding). Apparantly that's "intended".

When you consider the crit rate of epic rogues, eviscerate compares nicely. Current Eviscerate < Rupture and Current crit eviscerate > Rupture. I thought it was pretty well balanced except for the fact that few people would use rupture at all in PvE due to the debuff limit and few would use DoTs in PvP when they have a chance at an instant.

Garrote has the same issue, raiding won't want the debuff slot and PvP will always prefer the direct damage to a DoT.

IMO it makes sense to pay most attention to skills people will actually use. You'd have to buff Rupture and Garrotte to the point of ridiculousness before people would actually use them.

They managed to buff non-60 and undergeared Rogues, the two types of Rogues that needed it the least.

Maybe I'm unique in the perspective that I didn't really see rogues having huge problems aside from the bugs in their skills and itemization of rogue only items wasted on +STR instead of +AP. They still do a hell of a lot of DPS when played well at any gearing levels. The weapon skill talent will help even things out for PvE raiders, since there are so many people unaware of he extreme benefit of weapon skill, and it brings a lot of gearing flexibility to those who were aware of it.

I would probably point to itemization as a larger problem than any talent issues in the rogue of 1.11. Itemization for the other physical DPS classes is much better (hunters and warriors), and arguably the raiding sets are worst itemized for rogues... in Tier 1 & 2 from the AP vs. STR thinga and in Tier 3 because they tend to lump all the 'points' into a single stat on the individual pieces (plus it still has STR :blink:)

I always saw the rogue talent trees as laid out fairly well :shrug: (well, with the exception of the worst talent EVER -- throwing weapon spec)