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[Lissa]

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Uh, no. You see, for daggers to scale on the level of swords, we need Opportunity. I don't have Improved Ambush, which only increases crit chance. That has nothing to do with the theoretical maximum.

I knew Improved Ambush was just crit chance, that was why I was wondering on the Opportunity front. I know you didn't go that deep into Subtlety, but you did have more in Assassination.

Nit: 156% (1.2 x 1.3 = 1.56), but I have Opportunity anyway, so it's back down to 130% (of mine, not of base).

It's been a while since I've serious PvPed, so I remembered Bezerker as +25% damage and increase damage taken by +10%.

Trinkets don't make up that extra 120%.

I wasn't thinking Trinkets at all. I was thinking % damage multipliers. With enough +% damage multipliers, even at +10% here and there, can really increase damage significantly (it's why mages and warlocks can still one shot warriors in the BGs, get Berzerker stance, the Bezerk buff, debuffs like the curses, and talents and suddenly damage can increase by up to 400%).

My calculations were at zero armor.

Again, I was looking at +% damage multipliers to see the likelihood of what Mongo said happening. With only 5% damage reduction, throwing .95 into the damage calculation isn't going to drop damage that much.

Except your assumptions were wrong.

I disagree. I was looking at all the possible +% damage adders and subtractors to get an idea if it was possible. I don't know your complete build except you're combat dagger. So I was looking for every little thing that could figure in.

Here's a possibility for you since you want to look at trinkets.

Use a ZHM (I think that's the one that adds +40 damage stepping down 2 damage per hit for 20 seconds) while in stealth and not in combat, switch the trinket to a +AP trinket. Have Bezerker on both the target and the attacker, have Opportunity, have the target be a clothie without their armor spell up, maybe add in Curse of Recklessness (which means 0 armor) or a single Sunder (again, 0 armor for a clothie). Can you see it happening then with a Pugio?

It seems possible to me, there's a lot of +damage % multipliers and a lot of initial +damage.