My project : a pure legit community
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Quote:Kp' date='Jul 17 2006, 10:59 PM' post='113969']
That's absurd. Anyone competent enough to write the tool should be able to write the corresponding patch that blocks it. Most anti-crash / anti-corruption changes are pretty short, so it's not even a matter of not having enough code space in which to work.

I don't claim to know enough about writing code to be able to block or even attempt to make a hack, so I'll take your word for this. It seems logical enough, but that is still a much more harmful effect than most on Battle.Net today.

Quote:Kp' date='Jul 17 2006, 10:59 PM' post='113969']Given the OP's great emphasis on legitimate play, and Alamara's apparent pursuit of the same: where do you stand on corrective hacks? For instance, preventing duping is a tiny hack, yet it avoids cheating and is a convenience too (no more need to worry about converting something good into junk). What about fixing MS bug? Hacks to block remotely induced crashes? A code tweak to fix the PvP logic to ignore most autokill attempts? None of these make the game easier (and some of them make it harder), yet they all involve changing the flow of Diablo's code. Does that make them inherently wrong?

In order to play the game as it was intended, I would advocate the usage of such hacks. As laughable as the "I have legit hacks" screenshot floating around is, I still believe that some hacks can be used to propagate legitimacy, and help games to be more pure. For example, an anti-autokill, such as the one included with DiabloGuard. People often say to me that I am a cheater because I use a hack. To me, a cheater is someone who gains an unfair advantage over another through some trick or tool. I thus consider my anti-autokill to be, if you will, a "legit hack."

I would also be very happy to see a 1.10 "update" made for Diablo among the community of Battle.net gamers. As far fetched as it sounds, if it was of a high enough quality I could actually see Blizzard biting and using it. Perhaps that's a bit of a dream, though. In any case, I would love a patch that fixed the MS bug, the dupe bug, the horizontal walk bug, the lack of stunlock when friendly, the use of scrolls from the belt bug, an anti-crash, or anti-autokill. While I agree that these are hacks, and some of them assuredly violate the ToS, (Please read said paragraph in it, before trying to mention that ALL hacks violate the ToS.) they are helpful for the Diablo community.

In all honesty, if Blizzard sent one man around with even a rudimentary knowledge of Diablo into public games, he could kick hundreds of players in a day with no one the wiser. Let me dream. =D

I have another question, related to violating the ToS. Do you think such a program as an anti-autokill actually modify the gameplay? I'm interested to see where people stand on this issue, because I've encountered very differing comments about it.


Quote:Having said that, I now expect a Private Message from you, with the name of the accuser, who after a week, I'm sure to have enough evidence against to bury once and for all.

When you say this it is very much a deterrent to your case of innocence. You are going to get evidence to "bury" him? What if he is simply a legitimate player? The fact that you are so sure of being able to acquire evidence which will make him look bad makes it seem as if you are indeed part of such a conspiracy that he believes exists. Thus, I'd prefer to allow different stances to remain, and will not reveal his name to you.

Also, please refrain from attacking me, as I'm offering another's opinions, and remain undecided on the matter.
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My project : a pure legit community - by AyoR - 07-13-2006, 11:07 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by LennyLen - 07-15-2006, 03:42 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Jane - 07-15-2006, 09:43 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-16-2006, 11:49 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by LennyLen - 07-17-2006, 12:41 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Nystul - 07-17-2006, 01:04 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-17-2006, 09:26 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Nystul - 07-17-2006, 07:27 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Nystul - 07-18-2006, 01:21 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by [vL]Kp - 07-18-2006, 02:59 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Hureg - 07-19-2006, 02:32 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-19-2006, 05:22 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Nystul - 07-19-2006, 09:10 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-19-2006, 02:33 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by AyoR - 07-19-2006, 04:46 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by AyoR - 07-19-2006, 05:31 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Nystul - 07-19-2006, 09:06 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Hureg - 07-20-2006, 04:12 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by [vL]Kp - 07-21-2006, 03:26 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-22-2006, 02:58 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-22-2006, 03:00 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Griselda - 07-22-2006, 04:31 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-22-2006, 06:00 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by LennyLen - 07-22-2006, 07:18 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 07-22-2006, 07:04 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Griselda - 07-22-2006, 08:16 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by [vL]Kp - 07-22-2006, 08:25 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Sneeper - 08-27-2006, 06:13 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Hureg - 08-27-2006, 07:25 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by Sneeper - 08-27-2006, 11:48 AM
My project : a pure legit community - by [vL]Kp - 08-27-2006, 04:24 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Sneeper - 08-27-2006, 04:35 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Sneeper - 08-30-2006, 05:15 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by LennyLen - 08-30-2006, 07:53 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Sneeper - 08-30-2006, 10:16 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Alamara - 09-01-2006, 04:14 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by Sneeper - 09-02-2006, 01:10 PM
My project : a pure legit community - by [vL]Kp - 09-02-2006, 09:47 PM

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