05-25-2008, 12:33 AM
Quote:I understand your point perfectly, Skan, and, like GG, I have no problem with a tier higher loot for 25-mans vs 10-mans. However, there's a lot of high-end raiders who whined horribly on EJ about 10-mans even getting to see the same content, and get even 1 tier lower loot than them, the 'elite' raiders. It's those people who make the rest of you look bad, really. Sure, Skan, I know who you are, and more or less what you're about. I at least have a passing acquaintance with some of your guild members, so I know they're not all assholes. Just Gort, if he's still there. :P (Hi, Gort! I was just kidding!). Anyway, the proposed system as it is makes good sense to me. And, I'll admit that with the 25-man raids getting a tier better loot, those loot-whores I mentioned won't be in my 10-man raids. I'll be happy to take a little less to keep them out of my hair.
Frankly, I'm not even convinced that a tier better loot is necessarily the best solution, but I think it's a discussion worth having. It's Dave Sirlin I'm really irritated at. He's a respected game designer, and a pretty good one, but if you look at what he's done and shipped, it's clear that none of it actually qualifies him to comment on MMOs. It doesn't stop him from trying to push his irrelevant Street Fighter metaphors where they have no business being. His first article on what WoW teaches was ridiculous nonsense, and he's clearly come no further since then. His argument is full of holes and contradictions, and as usual he displays absolutely no understanding of the constraints that apply to a live development team that needs to push content out regularly. His recipe is endgame for all sizes up to 10 and elimination of 25-man raids, which displays a clear ignorance of the purpose of maximum-limit raiding within a fantasy MMO.