Mists of Pandaria discussion

[Taelas]

I cannot agree that an instant heal is automatically way better than a HOT. A HOT will be useful even if your healers manage to land enough heals after you activated it that you didn't need it, whereas an instant heal is completely wasted (or completely wastes the healer's mana, instead). That said, you're absolutely right that in most cases, it's better. The cooldown difference alone pretty much makes the choice a no-brainer.

Enraged Regeneration will be better for Fury warriors, however. As an Enrage effect, their Mastery increases it by quite a bit. My Fury set, which is awful, lets my Enraged Regeneration heal for 75% of my health.

As for the 90 tier, yeah, I don't really see the idea in putting Shockwave that late. It is certainly most useful in 5-mans, though I tank too many groups of adds in raids -- both during trash and during boss fights -- to abandon it that easily. The stun component is enough to make it useful even on single targets, too. For instance, it's great on the intermission phases on Ragnaros; any stun on a Son is good, and one that can hit more? Gold. The fact that it's an AE means I can even use it while tanking Lava Scions. I can see that usefulness disappearing as the group's DPS increases, but still, it's nice to have. (My guild has yet to kill Ragnaros on normal mode, so take that for what it's worth.)

Avatar is a DPS increase. Useful, sure, but as a tank, I don't strictly speaking need DPS. Control, on the other hand, is in extremely short supply, and Shockwave provides it, even if it isn't on bosses.

But this is something of a moot point; it seems they want you to be able to swap talent choices as easily as you swap glyphs. In that case, I will simply use Shockwave on the fights where it's useful, and Avatar on single-target boss fights.