06-03-2003, 05:34 PM
Guess what, what you described wasn't cheating because you agreed to a set of rules. "We had 10 minutes to get ourself a character and 'train' it as good as possible. Then we fought." That is a set of rules. Would it have been fun if your friend got 11 minutes, and becuase of that extra minute he was twice as big as you? Yeah, yeah, wildly hypothetical, but you get the point. You didn't cheat, because everyone involved was playing by the same set of rules.
Maphack is cheating because the rules of the game say you don't get to see where all the exits and chests and whatever else that POS porgram does. Since using it means you are not playing by the rules you are cheating.
White rings are cheating because they are not supposed to be a part of the game. It took a 3rd party program to create them.
Heck, if you get down to the nitty gritty FoxBat's D2 accelerator is cheating because the rules of the game say that a firewall and blizzard, etc will be displayed on screen this way. Heck, having used his little program, it did give me an advantage, since the Blizzard graphic was a lot cleaner, it was much easier to target monsters and see incoming missles. Of course this little program could cause a bit of discussion, but it is cheating since it intentionally violated the rules of the game.
Of course cheating does not have to give you an actual advantage, you can cheat to lose, and it is still cheating, it is still breaking the rules, and that is all the definition of the word covers, it doesn't cover intent.
So, to sum up, if all parties involved agree to a set of rules, even if they are different than the original rules (i.e. the "Free parking" rule in monopoly), then it isn't cheating because everyone agreed on the new rules, so you are playing a different game now.
But this topic has been beaten to death as well. The definition of the word is pretty clear, so determining if something is cheating isn't hard. I don't generally care to get into the rest.
Maphack is cheating because the rules of the game say you don't get to see where all the exits and chests and whatever else that POS porgram does. Since using it means you are not playing by the rules you are cheating.
White rings are cheating because they are not supposed to be a part of the game. It took a 3rd party program to create them.
Heck, if you get down to the nitty gritty FoxBat's D2 accelerator is cheating because the rules of the game say that a firewall and blizzard, etc will be displayed on screen this way. Heck, having used his little program, it did give me an advantage, since the Blizzard graphic was a lot cleaner, it was much easier to target monsters and see incoming missles. Of course this little program could cause a bit of discussion, but it is cheating since it intentionally violated the rules of the game.
Of course cheating does not have to give you an actual advantage, you can cheat to lose, and it is still cheating, it is still breaking the rules, and that is all the definition of the word covers, it doesn't cover intent.
So, to sum up, if all parties involved agree to a set of rules, even if they are different than the original rules (i.e. the "Free parking" rule in monopoly), then it isn't cheating because everyone agreed on the new rules, so you are playing a different game now.
But this topic has been beaten to death as well. The definition of the word is pretty clear, so determining if something is cheating isn't hard. I don't generally care to get into the rest.
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It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.
It's all just zeroes and ones and duct tape in the end.