Anyone have Moomba's Trainer?
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"Furthermore, the game considers the character to be in a state of death for a small period of time before his/her hit points are "refunded" by the Mana Shield. During this period of death (fraction of a second) the character is actually rendered immune to attacks, and cannot be knocked backward as well."

- this is actually what you meant with god mode, isn't it? So god mode is another expression for mana shield bug.


Some people actually do refer to the bug listed above as a form of god mode. That is, in my opinion, an absurd characterization. But let's leave it at that, because I really, really don't want this to turn into a thread about that bug.

Anyways, I do not think this is what Moldran was referring to. I think he was referring to the "Zero Hitpoint Issues" bug. In this particular case, the character is literally invincible unless he leaves the level or does something to raise his health (or gets healed by another player). An interesting twist on this bug is that it can happen to golems too, so you can have an invincible character with an invincible golem for however long it takes to clear a level. All this without any modifications or third party software. You can see where people might consider these things cheating.

"If a character goes to pick up an item as he/she is entering a Town Portal, a dupe will appear on the other side, thus creating the same item in town and in the dungeon. Neither item will be destroyed."

- this must be what you refered to as duping. I find this hard to believe, as I assume to have behaved like that many times, i.e. walking through a town-portal and in the last second deciding to pick up one last item I had overlooked. But if they say so, it's probably there. One question, though: Assuming you are in a dungeon, i.e. the caves lvl 10, and cast a portal. Does the bug appear when you pick up an item while being in the townportal square already and the dublicate will be placed in town while you fail to take the portal and stay in the caves? Or does the bug appear when it already is determined that you entered the town portal and the dublicate is placed in the caves, whereelse you yourself are portalled to town?


You fail to pick up the item and successfully go through the portal. The item drops onto the ground, both in town and in the dungeon. The location in town would be equivalent to the location in the dungeon, which means it could be in an unusual or even unreachable spot in town. You've probably done this accidentally at times, but either didn't find both copies or didn't realize they were dupes because it was something mundane like a white item or a pile of gold. There is an ironic, and very frustrating, counterpart to this, which is the case where you have the item on your cursor as you go through a portal (any of this will happen with staircases as well as portals, actually). In this case the item doesn't drop on the previous level, doesn't drop on the new level, and doesn't stay on your cursor, it simply vanishes into The Void.

There are several ways to dupe items, and the town portal thing is not the most common. One method was pretty common knowledge, and for a while it was more common to see someone in town duping items via the bug than it was to see someone using a trainer. It is really a shame that Blizzard didn't address these item handling issues, because not only did they allow people to duplicate items but they also resulted in the accidental destruction of a lot of valid items, including one of my first Dreamflanges, which was "duped" into a plain hunter's bow.
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Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by jfb392 - 06-26-2004, 01:36 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 06-26-2004, 01:51 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Thecla - 07-03-2004, 06:24 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Urza-DSF - 07-03-2004, 06:34 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Urza-DSF - 07-03-2004, 06:37 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Thecla - 07-03-2004, 06:44 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Urza-DSF - 07-03-2004, 08:34 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 07-03-2004, 02:29 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Malakar - 07-03-2004, 05:37 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Obi2Kenobi - 07-03-2004, 08:04 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by skana - 07-03-2004, 08:07 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-04-2004, 07:53 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-05-2004, 12:42 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Nystul - 07-05-2004, 01:40 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Sabra - 07-05-2004, 09:00 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Urza-DSF - 07-06-2004, 10:01 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Nystul - 07-06-2004, 10:25 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 07-06-2004, 02:41 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by --Pete - 07-06-2004, 04:29 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-06-2004, 04:38 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Lord_Olf - 07-06-2004, 05:24 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Nystul - 07-07-2004, 10:32 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 12:14 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-07-2004, 12:28 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 12:57 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-07-2004, 01:24 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 01:46 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-07-2004, 02:19 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 02:41 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-07-2004, 03:40 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 07-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 04:31 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-07-2004, 04:52 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 05:18 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Tal - 07-07-2004, 05:49 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-07-2004, 06:02 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 06:09 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 06:12 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by --Pete - 07-07-2004, 06:36 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 07-07-2004, 06:40 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Tal - 07-07-2004, 06:51 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 07-07-2004, 07:56 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 08:28 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 08:41 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-07-2004, 08:56 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by LemmingofGlory - 07-07-2004, 11:26 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Sabra - 07-08-2004, 01:36 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-08-2004, 05:01 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-08-2004, 05:11 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-08-2004, 09:51 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Nystul - 07-08-2004, 11:32 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Moldran - 07-08-2004, 11:59 AM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Fragbait - 07-08-2004, 12:11 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Jarulf - 07-09-2004, 01:12 PM
Anyone have Moomba's Trainer? - by Nystul - 07-09-2004, 04:39 PM

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