Changes to the Stormrage Guild system
LochnarITB,Jan 13 2005, 11:18 PM Wrote:I don't think it is proper to include this.  My understanding of the feelings of the Lurkers community is that, in the Diablos, PKing a PKer is still PKing.  How is this different?
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Firsly, I never supported PKing or so called PKKing in Diablo or Diablo 2. I can't recall if I ever made a direct response to Anonymous Coward on the DSF, but my feelings were always opposed to her point of view, and to any PvP outside of consencual duels. PvP was not an major or well balanced part of Diablo, or to the best of my knowledge, and important part of Diablo 2. Yet in World of Warcraft it is clear that PvP is an important and integral part of the game, and also it is entirely voluntary. Those who set their PvP flags or start a character on a PvP server know or should know what they are getting into. When you are on a PvP server and see a red name, with a known KoS guild tag attached, you are about to be attacked, unless you are with a superior force. Thus to give yourself the best chance to come out of the fight alive you should gain the initiative with a pre-emptive strike.

If anything, I feel the PvP guidlines set by Mongo may be a bit too restrictive. That is not to say I KoS as a matter of course. 90% of the time I adopt a live and let live policy when I encounter filthy alliance, especially when I am questing. Yet I feel there are situations where indiscriminate killing is appropriate or even called for. For example, I went to a raid of Astranaar with some Basiners some weeks back. As I was level 33 or so and the Astranaar guards are 40 I couldn't really do anything to them, so I contributed by murdering low level quest NPCs and anyone with a red name (most of the time I didn't even check what their level was). I felt that this was in the spirit of the raid, and reasonable. If I'm actively taking over an Alliance area or town, I'm not going to let the enemy go about their buisness just because they are 10 levels lower than me.

There are other situations where I have killed more or less indiscriminately and I don't feel particularly bad about it. If I'm at Nesingwary's I won't be shy about killing people outnumbered or outleveled or anyone at all, because I wan't the camp under horde control so I and others can do buisness there. It's even true that at times I get fed up with getting killed by higher leveled characters and I take my anger out on any nearby alliance, but I never corpse camp and don't generally jump people while they are fighting monsters or things like that. I don't support unrestricted KoS, or greifing people, but I think there are times and places for killing first and asking questions later.
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Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-03-2005, 09:03 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-04-2005, 01:42 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 03:24 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Treesh - 01-04-2005, 02:32 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 03:00 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 03:07 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Treesh - 01-04-2005, 03:17 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by swirly - 01-04-2005, 03:21 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 03:33 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by swirly - 01-04-2005, 03:48 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 03:58 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 04:29 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Treesh - 01-04-2005, 04:40 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by swirly - 01-04-2005, 04:43 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Kevin - 01-04-2005, 05:04 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-04-2005, 05:16 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Kevin - 01-04-2005, 05:25 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-04-2005, 05:30 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Kevin - 01-04-2005, 05:36 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 05:43 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 05:55 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Roane - 01-04-2005, 06:26 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-04-2005, 08:06 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-04-2005, 08:20 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-05-2005, 01:01 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Treesh - 01-05-2005, 04:02 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-05-2005, 04:08 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-05-2005, 04:13 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Bolty - 01-05-2005, 06:54 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-05-2005, 12:23 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-05-2005, 01:55 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-05-2005, 03:35 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-05-2005, 09:27 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-05-2005, 09:51 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Catlyn - 01-05-2005, 09:57 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Catlyn - 01-05-2005, 10:01 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Catlyn - 01-05-2005, 10:11 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Roane - 01-05-2005, 10:31 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-05-2005, 10:37 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Roane - 01-05-2005, 10:48 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-05-2005, 11:02 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-05-2005, 11:30 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-05-2005, 11:52 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Catlyn - 01-06-2005, 12:02 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-06-2005, 02:28 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-06-2005, 04:52 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-06-2005, 05:10 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-06-2005, 05:11 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-06-2005, 05:47 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-06-2005, 01:57 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-06-2005, 02:03 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-06-2005, 03:37 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Kevin - 01-06-2005, 05:50 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-06-2005, 07:17 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-06-2005, 09:52 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Kevin - 01-06-2005, 10:41 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by --Pete - 01-06-2005, 10:56 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Nystul - 01-07-2005, 12:04 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-07-2005, 01:44 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by LavCat - 01-07-2005, 08:17 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-07-2005, 03:04 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Mirajj - 01-07-2005, 06:30 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Catlyn - 01-07-2005, 08:02 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Guest - 01-07-2005, 08:04 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Treesh - 01-07-2005, 08:47 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Treesh - 01-07-2005, 08:49 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Mirajj - 01-07-2005, 11:46 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Zippyy - 01-08-2005, 07:21 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Zippyy - 01-08-2005, 07:44 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-08-2005, 08:02 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Roane - 01-09-2005, 01:05 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Zippyy - 01-09-2005, 05:10 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Tal - 01-09-2005, 01:39 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Roane - 01-09-2005, 06:34 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Zippyy - 01-09-2005, 10:19 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Boutros - 01-14-2005, 08:48 AM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Guest - 01-14-2005, 07:56 PM
Changes to the Stormrage Guild system - by Kevin - 01-14-2005, 10:31 PM

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