Naxxramas

[oldmandennis]

As far as reaching the highest status in PvP.... C'mon now. It would take 5 times more time to reach it than to do some raids.

I don't know about all classes, but for shaman at least, the blue pvp items are better for pvp then the MC set. I'm 7/8 1/8 but only use my T2 helm for pvp. Most of what I use for PvPing comes from PvP. Rank 8 is not that hard, I'm able to maintain it with 10 hr/week on a good week, but I frequently go on business trips and also that time goes down when we are raiding hard. I know some of the big time pvpers on my server, and spend maybe 1/4 of the time in organized groups.

So, I need to spend thrice the time to GRIND for the money in order to get items that are still less powerful and in the case of weapons *a lot* less powerful? Yeh, that makes sense..... to a cow.

Hey, it took 10 months to get where I am now. Drama, setbacks, defections, alliances disolving... and a lot of cash spent on repairs and potions. True, the purples are easy to get if you can get into a group that has MC or BWL on farm status, where most of the raiders have most of their set already. But if you add up all the time I have spent raiding and all the gold I have spent, I could easily afford 2k per slot for the best purchasable items. And I _do_ currently use several purchasable items, as well as situaltional blues.

You are not addressing my main point. I do not complain about the fact that it is more difficult without raiding to get upper-end gear. My point is that it is competely *impossible*.

I keep addressing it. I gave you a list of 14 or so items you could obtain that you wouldn't feel embarased facing Nef in.

You know the game purely from a raider's PoV and nothing else. I see that now.
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Well this is just a cop out. You don't know me. You have no idea how much time I've spent solo and in 5 man dungeons. You have been playing for 2 months. It has taken me a year and a half to go all purple. If you focus on the items which have been _repeateldy_ discussed here and spend another year playing you will be mostly as effective as I am now.