Anyone else looking at Vanguard?
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Quote:Watch that "require" carefully, though. Our first Ony kill was with very few epics overall, mostly greens and blues.

Agreed, Onyxia is unique in that skill matters more then gear. However, like you said, resists are to easy to abuse to scale raids. Or, all that +dmg to Undead gear that no one cares about, use that concept with an impossible dungeon unless everyone has +dmg to Dragons or something from a previous dungeon. Make people think about gear choices. "Do I want that +str for the trash mobs on the boss fight or do I want my +dmg to Dragons for the boss?"

Quote:Hearing this makes me sad, because I think of how Scholomance and Live-side Stratholme were pre-nerfing.

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DM has the best of this right now, thinking of the Prince, Ogre King, and Captain Kromcrush fights.

Gah, 5-man Scholo is a joke. Captain Kromcrush is definitely no joke. I was in a guild group doing DM and we weren't thinking and let Thimblejack go before we got the suit from him :P We got to Kroncrush before we realized it and figured we had to kill him and the Tribute wouldn't be hurt too much. One of our members had left a while back so we go in, not knowing the fight at all and only 4 people. Needless to say, a wipe was inevitable. However, we rezzed up and took him down since we had not only knowledge of the fight, but Vent to coordinate the sheeping/offtanking. Anywho, yes, DM has some great boss fights.

Quote:BGs are not screwed up because of items aquired in raids. They're screwed up because of organized versus pubbie, caster versus melee, and honor grinding.

However, the melee vs caster imbalance is caused by epic gear. I never lost to a Warrior pre-60 but since hitting level 60 BGs, I have yet to beat one. Melee damage scales, caster damage doesn't - simple as that. Yeah, jumping through people during casting to break the spell is annoying but you can counter that. Good luck countering a 6 billion damage mortal strike :shuriken:

Noo! This turned into a WoW debate! So, I'm thinking Vanguard is going to be sexy :blush: What do you guys think? Give me your initial views and pros/cons.
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Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-13-2005, 05:38 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Rinnhart - 12-13-2005, 11:03 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-14-2005, 01:39 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Guest - 12-14-2005, 02:05 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-14-2005, 02:07 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Guest - 12-14-2005, 02:18 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-14-2005, 02:22 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-14-2005, 03:30 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Rinnhart - 12-14-2005, 03:50 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Guest - 12-14-2005, 04:08 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-14-2005, 06:54 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Guest - 12-14-2005, 09:30 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-14-2005, 11:39 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-15-2005, 12:28 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-15-2005, 01:30 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Quark - 12-15-2005, 02:59 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Walkiry - 12-15-2005, 03:14 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-15-2005, 03:38 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Quark - 12-15-2005, 03:42 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Quark - 12-15-2005, 03:43 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-15-2005, 03:48 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Quark - 12-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-15-2005, 03:56 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Raelynn - 12-15-2005, 04:04 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Walkiry - 12-15-2005, 04:17 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-15-2005, 05:09 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Quark - 12-15-2005, 06:27 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Concillian - 12-16-2005, 01:53 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Quark - 12-16-2005, 02:06 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-16-2005, 04:19 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Rinnhart - 12-17-2005, 01:20 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Guest - 12-17-2005, 01:54 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Rinnhart - 12-17-2005, 05:37 AM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by ima_nerd - 12-17-2005, 06:49 AM
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Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Rinnhart - 12-17-2005, 05:55 PM
Anyone else looking at Vanguard? - by Drasca - 12-18-2005, 12:56 AM
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