Defending the honor system
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Quote:2) It changes nothing. The caster itemization thing will be improving starting next patch. The fact that they aborted a BG does not mean that the 3 they have are not fun, don't need tactics, and can't use every classes abilities.



You are, in a round about way, defending the Honor System. Why would you do that? WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO THAT?

Level 1) Why does a relativly innocuous statment deserve the italics and caps?

Level 2) You don't address the statement I made "BG's are fun, require tactics, and a mix of class abilities"

Level 3) You instead make a turn into left field about the honor system. The fact that you inserted "round about" doesn't make your logic hold. If I thought the honor system was complete crap, I could still think that BG's are fun.

Level 4) I do think the honor system is more or less working as intended.

The purpose of the Honor system was to give players a "Warcraft 3" style system of measuring their achievment, to encourage both world and BG PvP action, and to give the "achiever" types some shiny baubles to go after. I think it has succeded on all counts.

Nowhere was it promised that you could casually chip away at high warlord, nowhere was it promised that PvP would be a good way for casual players to obtain epic gear. The closest thing was where some blue poster said "You will be suprised at how viable casual players are".

And a mitigation for the dissappointment some players feel about the above reality is the very nice rewards you can get from gaining faction with the various battlegrounds. That is a viable way for casual players to chip away at better gear. The "consolation marks" recently implemented make it even better for a casual player, because even getting 5 based still puts you one small step closer to your Defiler's Pauldrons.

Another problem people have with the honor system is that "it requires no skill, only time". While being HWL does require a massive time investment, it also requires a good team with a lot of skill. I speak from experience. Mostly I roll with Pugs. Once or twice a week I get on with one of the pro teams, including future and past high warlords. The rate of honor gain with them is probably 4-5 times as great with the pro team. I haven't done the math, but I think it would be physically impossible to make HWL without a good team, there just wouldn't be enough time in the day. Pro teams don't let unskilled players hang around (such as shammys that don't heal).

I'm still not a fanboi. There are some improvements that still need to be made. The rate of honor gain needs to be balanced between the BG's (currently AB gives an unbalanced amount of honor). I look foreward to the deserter debuff that should encourage the pro teams to fight it out. They need to do something about leechers in AV. Cross server BG's to get each BG up for everybody in primetime. Maybe some type of team balancer that attempts somehow to pit Pug's vs Pugs and Pro's vs Pro's. It would be nice to somehow weight skill even more strongly.
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Defending the honor system - by oldmandennis - 12-14-2005, 09:20 PM
Defending the honor system - by Watto44 - 12-14-2005, 11:47 PM
Defending the honor system - by oldmandennis - 12-15-2005, 12:52 AM
Defending the honor system - by Guest - 12-15-2005, 02:33 AM
Defending the honor system - by Watto44 - 12-15-2005, 03:41 AM

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