12-14-2005, 11:44 AM
ima_nerd,Dec 14 2005, 05:58 PM Wrote:Revenge > Sunder
Shield Slam (for the Prot Warrior) > Sunder
Sunder is relatively weak compared to other tricks Warrior's have. In fact, bam.
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I'm aware of those calculations. Sunder is the highest threat source by both efficiency and total threat that is not on a cooldown timer.
Theorycraft for a 692 Attack Power Maul on the same scale as I understand it is as follows:
((((275 white * 1.2 Savage Fury) + (128 Maul bonus * 1.2 Savage Fury * 1.1 Natural Weapons)) * 2 Maul threat bonus) - 275 base white) * 4 Threat per rage * 0.5 target armour = 1446 per non-crit Maul. That's above everything except Shield Slam.
Is that number accurate? I have no idea, my tests have been too crude to be able to confidently assign numerical values. The above calculation includes Maul acting as a *2 multiplier rather than the flat addition claimed for Heroic Strike because a poster in the blizz forums claims to have done the work and come to that value.
I do know that none of the warriors I have tested against has been able to hold mobs that I am trying to pull off them, even given a head start and rage generated from being hit. I'd like a bigger sample, but finding people willing to fly halfway across the world to test something they think is pointless (because 'Druid threat can't possibly be more or even close to Warrior threat') isn't easy. Mucking around in raids I've pulled Molten Giants from the Warriors tanking them; I haven't tried on anything harder becuase I didn't want to inconvenience the raid.
In all cases I'vd been wearing my tanking gear, which gives me a little under 700 AP and a little over 20% crit unbuffed except for LOTP. I could generate more threat in my Cat gear that focuses more on offensive stats but that wouldn't be a valid test because I wouldn't have the stamina or armour to make an effective tank.