Help me respec my druid
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TheDragoon,Oct 11 2005, 11:00 AM Wrote:Just a couple things you might want to also ponder for your build (which looks pretty good overall, to me!):

-Improved Shred

It seems like this talent can go a long way toward making a cat dish out a lot of damage if someone else is around to tank by letting you get off more Shreds.  I'm definitely not a Rogue expert, but it seems that reducing the energy cost of a backstab-like attack would be a good thing.  I plan on testing this out and seeing how I like it.  :)
As I mentioned this is a big question for me as well. I have it now and it does help a lot and the new talent is even better. I'd have to take points from somewhere for it though. That means predatory strikes going to 30 AP instead of 90 which weakens my weak bear (that will still be used at times) and hurts my regular hits more as well, it's also a bigger hit if I'm going cat in my caster gear (which is not uncommon) as that 90 AP is not gear dependent. Not an easy choice at all. Giving up the extra combo points of blood frenzy is a possibility as well but that hurts ferocious bite and ferocious bite is a large part of cat damage still. And only one point in blood frenzy would just annoy me. Seeing a crit and not seeing the extra combo point, grrr. So that is an all or nothing talent. But yeah that is a very tough debate for me.

Quote:-Improved Rejuvenation vs. Improved Regrowth

I think that I would probably try to group up the points spent in those talents into one talent or the other.  I generally try to min/max my skills to make one more powerful/efficient and then use that skill more.
This would be true if those spells served the same purpose or you could get away without using one or the other, but that is not the case with druid healing. 10% more crit on regrowth is nice, and better to me than 5% more on rejuv. Since you keep rejuv up all the time it is nice to have improvements to it. Regrowth is a mana hog unless it crits, in which case it becomes about the same healing/mana as the other druid spells, if you let the full 21 seconds of the HoT run. If you cast it again on the same target you kill mana efficiency since you over write your HoT part of it. So this is often what you throw on the off tank or you will put up on the MT when you need a faster heal but I won't be casting it a lot. I like the idea of a fairly large 10% boost to that front end crit but since I will be using rejuv all the time I'd rather have the 10% boost on that than 30% crit chance on regrowth which will be used less now that I can cast in 3 vs 3.5 seconds on healing touch. My healing has a tendency to split 35/35/30 on what spells provide the healing a lot of the times. This is one case where I don't think a min/max works best.

Quote:-Reflection

This looks like it's a nice talent for both 5-maning & for the 40-person raids if you use spirit for mana regeneration.  If, however, you have a lot of +mana/5 seconds gear, then I could see skipping this talent. 

Keep in mind druids get less benefit from spirit than priests do. So 15% of my spirit counting for regen is more like a priest having 8-10% their spirit counting does it seem as worthwile now?

Yeah I could give up the regrowth/rejuv points for this but it doesn't really help in 5 man when you have innervate because if you run out of mana you innervate yourself and are good to go, if that much mana isn't enough you had other issues anyway. Drinking out of combat and start of pulls is easier to do as a druid because you can't preshield you pretty much have to wait on the first cast of the spell anyway. The occasional front end crit on regrowth and the extra healing of the HoT on rejuv will probably allow me to cast less and make up for the little mana I would regen with this talent.

In 40 man with all the priests and paladins around interrupting your heals anyway the regen isn't that big a deal either because you never get the 3 second cast off so you are full regen anyway. :)

Oh and yeah I have at least 35mana/5 sec anyway might be more like 50 not sure don't keep close track on it.

Of course with insect swarm and hurricane being available this talent has some more appeal as there will be more things I can cast to interrupt the regen. But I still this being a better talent for a balance druid than a restoration druid. That also makes subtlety more attractive as well since I'll probably have a higher DPS than I used to when healing so healing threat may be more likely to push me over the top of the hate list, of course that is also part of the reason for the armor talent, to take even less damage in bear, and furor will allow me to bash the mob right away as well.
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Help me respec my druid - by Kevin - 10-11-2005, 02:26 PM
Help me respec my druid - by nobbie - 10-11-2005, 03:59 PM
Help me respec my druid - by TheDragoon - 10-11-2005, 04:00 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Kevin - 10-11-2005, 04:50 PM
Help me respec my druid - by TheDragoon - 10-11-2005, 06:07 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Bun-Bun - 10-11-2005, 06:09 PM
Help me respec my druid - by nobbie - 10-11-2005, 06:23 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Bun-Bun - 10-11-2005, 06:28 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Kevin - 10-11-2005, 06:55 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Tuftears - 10-11-2005, 07:40 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Warlock - 10-11-2005, 10:10 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Quark - 10-11-2005, 10:16 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Kevin - 10-11-2005, 11:07 PM
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Help me respec my druid - by Watto44 - 10-12-2005, 01:58 AM
Help me respec my druid - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-12-2005, 02:21 AM
Help me respec my druid - by Warlock - 10-12-2005, 02:51 AM
Help me respec my druid - by Kevin - 10-12-2005, 05:03 AM
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Help me respec my druid - by Warlock - 10-12-2005, 08:30 PM
Help me respec my druid - by nobbie - 10-12-2005, 09:26 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Tuftears - 10-12-2005, 10:34 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Kevin - 10-13-2005, 12:59 AM
Help me respec my druid - by TheDragoon - 10-13-2005, 03:01 PM
Help me respec my druid - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-18-2005, 01:11 PM
Help me respec my druid - by TheDragoon - 10-18-2005, 04:00 PM
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