05-06-2003, 05:09 PM
I'm not sure that will be the case.
The movies, thus far, have tried to make it a point to stay away from the more outlandish (okay, in a relative sense) staples of the comics. Notice that the only time in the movies when Storm flies is after Toad knocks her down the elevator shaft, whereas she flies virtually everywhere in the comic. Also, many backstories/history links (Wolverine vs Sabretooth/Deathstrike, Rogue/Mystique/Magneto, Nightcrawler/Mystique) have been dropped (mostly, I think, to have a comprehensible movie that doesn't run 4 hours long).
There was a very interesting thread on the Something Awful Games forum that delved into this point. I could look up the link, but it's not really a work- or child-friendly thread, being full of Goons and all... ;)
I think they're going to take a more "organic" approach, either by deciding that the Phoenix is Jean's (heretofore untapped) maximum potential, triggered by her use of Cerebro in the first movie (remember Cyclops saying that Jean's "been different since Liberty Island"?), or an uncontrollable expansion of her abilities, also by Cerebro. Either way can result in a recognizable (Dark) Phoenix, but does away with the Shi'ar plotline that would be necessary to do a "comic true" Phoenix -- and to be honest, the Shi'ar stuff wasn't the best bit of work ever, and it would take too long to show/explain it for one movie, anyway.
Here's what I want to see in X3:
The government, extremely alarmed at the near-death of everyone in the world, somehow learns that it was at the hands of a mutant (perhaps Stryker's second leaked the information). Wanting to ensure that such a situation never happens again, the president (maybe not the one from X2, perhaps this is next term) authorizes yet another secret operation to curb the "mutant threat", headed by Henry Trask. Yes, that's right, I want some hot hot Sentinel buttkicking action! The Sentinels tear up the mansion (again), and we see cuts to sentinels fighting other mutants (perfect place for some cameos). The Sentinels, however, develop a glitch: since every "normal" human being has the potential to mutate, or pass a mutation to their progeny, the only way to wipe out all mutants is to kill all the normals as well. This culminates in the X-Men having to fight their way into Trask's base to turn off the Sentinels (and perhaps get some Master Mold action, too). This would quite nicely tie up the current "Anti-Mutant Government" story arc.
Note that Jack Kirby-esque Sentinels would probably suck, but if they were designed as 15-foot Terminators, or something along those lines, I think they'd be rad.
The Phoenix could also be introduced near the middle/end of the movie to help with the final assault against Master Mold (and to show how sheerly powerful she is), before her fall in X4.
Magneto fitting in is tougher. He could just be left out, or maybe he's the cause of the problem (he sends Mystique in the reprogram the Sentinels, but she doesn't get it right, or something).
Either way, Sentinels + Phoenix = Win.
Oh, a few more things X3 needs:
Gambit
Cannonball Special!
Longshot (yeah, I wish...)
More Colossus
Rogue's powers
- WL
The movies, thus far, have tried to make it a point to stay away from the more outlandish (okay, in a relative sense) staples of the comics. Notice that the only time in the movies when Storm flies is after Toad knocks her down the elevator shaft, whereas she flies virtually everywhere in the comic. Also, many backstories/history links (Wolverine vs Sabretooth/Deathstrike, Rogue/Mystique/Magneto, Nightcrawler/Mystique) have been dropped (mostly, I think, to have a comprehensible movie that doesn't run 4 hours long).
There was a very interesting thread on the Something Awful Games forum that delved into this point. I could look up the link, but it's not really a work- or child-friendly thread, being full of Goons and all... ;)
I think they're going to take a more "organic" approach, either by deciding that the Phoenix is Jean's (heretofore untapped) maximum potential, triggered by her use of Cerebro in the first movie (remember Cyclops saying that Jean's "been different since Liberty Island"?), or an uncontrollable expansion of her abilities, also by Cerebro. Either way can result in a recognizable (Dark) Phoenix, but does away with the Shi'ar plotline that would be necessary to do a "comic true" Phoenix -- and to be honest, the Shi'ar stuff wasn't the best bit of work ever, and it would take too long to show/explain it for one movie, anyway.
Here's what I want to see in X3:
The government, extremely alarmed at the near-death of everyone in the world, somehow learns that it was at the hands of a mutant (perhaps Stryker's second leaked the information). Wanting to ensure that such a situation never happens again, the president (maybe not the one from X2, perhaps this is next term) authorizes yet another secret operation to curb the "mutant threat", headed by Henry Trask. Yes, that's right, I want some hot hot Sentinel buttkicking action! The Sentinels tear up the mansion (again), and we see cuts to sentinels fighting other mutants (perfect place for some cameos). The Sentinels, however, develop a glitch: since every "normal" human being has the potential to mutate, or pass a mutation to their progeny, the only way to wipe out all mutants is to kill all the normals as well. This culminates in the X-Men having to fight their way into Trask's base to turn off the Sentinels (and perhaps get some Master Mold action, too). This would quite nicely tie up the current "Anti-Mutant Government" story arc.
Note that Jack Kirby-esque Sentinels would probably suck, but if they were designed as 15-foot Terminators, or something along those lines, I think they'd be rad.
The Phoenix could also be introduced near the middle/end of the movie to help with the final assault against Master Mold (and to show how sheerly powerful she is), before her fall in X4.
Magneto fitting in is tougher. He could just be left out, or maybe he's the cause of the problem (he sends Mystique in the reprogram the Sentinels, but she doesn't get it right, or something).
Either way, Sentinels + Phoenix = Win.
Oh, a few more things X3 needs:
Gambit
Cannonball Special!
Longshot (yeah, I wish...)
More Colossus
Rogue's powers
- WL