09-12-2005, 06:29 PM
Quote:I thought I'd point out that people can't shoot each other and relief workers without guns.
No, but the determined will use other weapons at hand...
Quote:The right to bear arms gets innocents killed every day. The average American is 7 (or 9?) times more likely to be shot by a family member than by a criminal. The difference is that it now happens in a disaster area and everyone is watching.
I agree with your premise here.
Quote:Is the right to bear guns really a foundation of democracy? The US is not the only democratic country in the world, and (except Australia, probably) very few of them have such lax gun control laws as the US.
It is a foundation of our democracy. We were founded with the ideal that the people should establish the government to serve them, not be ruled by the government. The right to bear arms was a cornerstone of enabling that ideal.
Quote:In Europe, guns cannot be sold freely and as a result, the average muggers don't actually have guns either. Perhaps the professional criminals and carjackers do, but what is a shootout going to accomplish anyway and how often do you get carjacked in the first place?
Bah, it's carjackee's fault for owning a car in the first place... :P
Fixing our gun control and ownership system should be a priority but it's a political hot potato. You can be more than pro-gun or anti-gun but the U.S. media does not see it this way.
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Quote:Of course, ghetto life doesn't help either. Cram a lot of people living below the poverty line together with a lot of unemployed and/or homeless people, make sure the education their children receive is inadequate for a better life, do not promote any human values in the media (violence sells better), then insult them by saying 'poverty is a state of mind'.
I'm sure rich white people are responsible with guns, but people with no long-term future tend not to care about the short-term future either. Result: constant shoot-outs.
Areas with higher concentrations people tend to have higher crime rates. Poorer people tend to live in high density areas...
"Poverty is a state of mind" - where did this hogwash come from? Some of our people think all welfare folks are lazy bums, only some of them are. Many are trapped by the system and we know this.
I'll let the rest of this troll crawl back under it's bridge.
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Quote:As for withholding the remaining citizens food and water to force them out of the city, I figure this is just part of the American philosophy that the poor have brought it upon themselves and are therefore to be treated as filth.
How do you know that's how we feel? I disagree vehemently with your statement.
Quote:Of course, I take it that saying 'get out' is the extent of the gov't's responsibilities and those forced out will just end up homeless in nearby cities. I guess it was their fault for not having the money to leave in the first place, then their fault again to loot food stores.
Have you been able to catch any news from U.S. sources? Much of it centers around the incompetence of the Local NO Government, the LA State Government, FEMA, the Federal Government, and their inability to get the situation taken care of in a better fashion.
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The United States has become a place where entertainers and professional athletes are mistaken for people of importance. Robert A. Heinlein