Influence your thoughts and feelings

[Chaerophon]

Marx and Engels - evil. Read their works... in detail.

Have done. Don't see it. They saw the plight of their fellow man and they strove to correct it. Were they misguided, mistaken, naive? Sure, maybe. Evil? Hell no. Marx was a poor man - he wasn't in it for money or power. He was in it because he felt that man could live a better life, one in which their labour helped them to live well.

Plato - Greece - Democracy.

Plato didn't advocate democracy, Aristotle did. Plato felt that democracy was a weak, if less corruptible form of democracy. See book VIII of the Republic in support of my point. It's a quick, easy read. He was an idealist, just like the communists that I mentioned, and in fact, I would say that he was FAR less of a democrat than any of them. Plato provides THE perfect example of what I'm talking about - a moral system with christ-like ideals backed by an advocation of political structures that clash strongly with those of the modern day, which are derived as much from experience of the failures of such idealism as from any strictly 'moral' point of view.