08-01-2005, 06:15 PM
Gnollguy,Aug 1 2005, 01:37 PM Wrote:Shield Slam is still only mediocre for damage. It is rare to see more than about 300 a hit for it. I need to test on more mobs of course for hard data, but a 10 damage/rage +/- 1-2 damage looks to be about what you get with slam. You still give up much of the extra damage for regular attacks that an arms or fury could do (though in tank gear things like enrage are going to be pointless since you won't get critted). The extra damag of flurry may not make up for it but bloodthirst + flurries that you get really should. I think MS, even with a one hander (and even when tanking not a lot of reason to not swap to the two hander for it) is generally going to do close to that kind of damage. Plus I won't have impale or sweeping strikes, or an individual weapon spec. I still think the 31/5/15 is a better tank build for 90-95% of the encounters. The gap has been closed a fair bit for sure but I still don't think the rest of the protection talents give that much of an advantage to tanking, while the arms & fury talents do still give a big advantage to soloing or offtanking or any other role a warrior may have to fill.
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Agree completely. Especially considering the fact that in the situations where you actually might want Protection (Read - MC, Onyxia, BWL), most of the time talents after the first 15 are useless anyway.
Although I do have to agree with the fact that both 10% increased life is too much for both hunters and warriors. A 5% increased life talent would be fair I think, and would still make protection tree more desirable.
Of course, Blizzard already said that they do not want to make Protection tree to be significantly better at tanking then any other tree, but how do you make it so by putting points into protection tree you don't actually get better at protecting? A conundrum in itself, it can only be resolved by giving the skills in the tree a different direction from protection. Shield Slam added DPS, and I think Blizzard's logic is to add more DPS-increasing talents in the tree to make it more attractive to other warriors. I feel it would be better instead if they made it more of a group/utility tree, it would gain some different purpose and be more tempting if the warrior could add some utility at the cost of DPS. After all, if you really wanted DPS, you would spec Arms of Fury anyway... But that's probably just me.