A Study Of N00bs
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Skandranon,Jul 2 2005, 08:20 AM Wrote:AoE is the best solution to that pull.  Those dogs put out quite a bit of damage, but if you sleep one and sheep one, that's still four dogs on the tank.  Healing at the rate to keep the tank alive will result in numerous breakouts to the healer, not to mention what will happen if the sleep breaks early (stuttered heals, damage on the healer plus breakouts and the tank now has to keep track of five separate targets).  AoE distills everyone's role into simple jobs that everyone can perform effectively.
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i strongly disagree... i strongly recommend you try the CC approach and compare it...

i've said this a number of times already, but with mage, druid, warrior, hunter, rogue, against 6 dogs, one should be sheeped, one hibernated, one ice trapped, and one can be on the hunter's pet... that leaves TWO for the warrior to worry about for 30-45 seconds... if you focus fire you should easily be able to kill two of them in 30 seconds... the warrior will probably only need a HoT... and you can always recast hibernate and poly if you're worried about it breaking...

even if things did go wrong during the pull, a warrior with 4 dogs on him is a lot better than a mage with 6... if the warrior has decent gear, healing him works like "wait till he hits 50-60% health and start casting", repeat (100% efficiency)... healing a mage with 4 (or 6 dogs) is almost always horribly mana inefficient for 2 reasons, cloth vs plate, and with a 3.5 second heal the druid can't risk leaving the mage at much less than full health because a mage can easily lose 75%+ of their health vs 4-6 dogs in a few seconds, which often means doing full heals and overhealing...

also, in a decent group, the tank should not have to worry about breakouts very often... the healer should have at most 2 targets to heal: the tank and MA, and usually the MA isn't in need of more than a HoT every once in a while... but even if the tank misses a step and the healer gets aggro, a druid can barkskip and/or switch to bear form (tanks usually pick up on that)...

--fractaled

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