07-01-2005, 06:10 AM
Quark,Jul 1 2005, 04:11 AM Wrote:3 dogs alone, then 6 dogs all linked in my experience. And how is a mage gonna "manage aggro" versus 6? If all non-healers manage to select another target to beat on, that's still 3 on the mage. If a Mage goes out to kill things with AoE, nothing is gonna take aggro from him. It might not come to him for a second or two depending on how you pull, but pretty much anything but a Rogue's target will end up on him. Those dogs hurt too.
the only time i recall the mage using AoE on the dogs is when we had a priest along... if we didn't have a priest we switched to a different, more workable, tactic, namely: 6 dogs... one polyed, one hibernated, one freeze trapped... you can repoly & rehibernate... so you should 3 at a time, at most 4 if you freeze trap one for some reason... that encounter is not a hard one... again "if a mage goes out to kill things with AoE" - that is your problem, not the druid... if you don't see that, there's no point to this sub-thread...
Quote:Besides, are you telling me every fight you ever participate in goes perfect? Things go wrong, and when things go wrong, you want an untimered rez.
i already said you have to have a rezer... a druid is not a rezer... group makeup isn't that tricky, you require tank, healer, and rezer... if you skimp on the rezer (by only having a druid), then you need to adjust... your druid group, while not optimal, is more than adequate for a DM tribute run... also note that a priest is not required for an optimal group... i would say druid, shaman, warrior, mage, X is ONE optimal group...
Quote:A Paladin would have completely changed the dynamic of the group the rest of the way. The only difference between these two groups was Druid versus Priest, and the only effected outcome was that there was a dead person that couldn't be ressurected.
you missed my point... you were in a group that didn't have a rezer (only an emergency rezer)... your group played like you had a rezer in it... things didn't work out... you have to adjust your play to the composition of your group... if you don't have a rezer, you CAN'T play each battle like a shoot-out in quake...
Quote:I want to see more of what a druid can do, but in the rare cases I'm playing with one I only see where a priest beats them out.
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yeah, you ignored everything else i said that druids can do in DM... a druid's strength is flexibility... if you're going to only compare with priests as "primary healers" in otherwise rezerless groups, then yeah, they're not going to compare favorably because you will have that odd time where there are two deaths in 30 minutes...