A Study Of N00bs
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Treesh,Jun 29 2005, 08:43 AM Wrote:And druids also don't have the fancy shield to help the mages stay up without taking a lot of healing

Yes, concentrate on the elites in the group, but if you're a warrior, you have very good skills to use to keep lots of critters on you and keep everyone safe without having to focus on every single critter.
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Wholeheartedly agreed that non-elites should be handled one way or another. Preferably let tank tank, and everyone else off-tank--cause its just a non-elite. Don't want bee-lining to healers to happen!

Druids work better healing warlock AoE'ers due to extremely high health pool locks have to work with. In desperate (like bee-lining), or comfortable situations where healing is plenty, my warlock simply hellfires his way through instances, soul link, intensity, or no. Its not exactly mana efficient if you think in terms of life tapping and melee against cloth, but you're limited to mainly one target who isn't easily overhealed, and the rest of the party is free to go nuts on damage aggro. End-result with enough healing: everything dies around the lock while aggro is somewhat spread around due to presence of rogues and high aggro damage abilities


Quote:Ok, we are going to jump down. You should dismiss your pet now". Things would have been fine and I would have learned the easy way.

My point is that smart people learn from their mistakes

Smart people learn to predict and correct other potential mistakes too. Pubbie groups are a potluck, but oragnized leaders should warn about mishaps. For example, any decently organized group leader would normally warn you in UBRS-Rend arena that your pet might need to be dismissed.

Quote:A warrior lost his chance of loot simply because of the difference in Res ability.

Little bit more complex than that. Party equipment & organization time to clear vs repop and boss corpse despawn time determine if people able to run back or not. Party looking at corpse while members are released also negate loot. Your best chance to loot is when your members scream "do not touch corpse" until everyone is rezzed and nearby. Your party made a choice to use druid rez early. If there were no repops, it would be best to simply run.

It is not the solely fault of the player or class limitations for loss of loot.

Quote:Can anyone tell me any of that is really preferable to simply having a Priest?

If you're going for ideal parties via druid inclusion, replace both hunter and mage with warlock. He can serve both pet and aoe role, while druid is better able to heal him. You can have a rezzer for 5th if desired, but really not necessary. Any class should do. Warlock inclusion is more likely to survive the dogs too, and the HoT's work better on locks with their high health pool. This lock actually prefers druid healing in aoe situations. Back to dogs, their rend is nerfed, so it doesn't stack as much. Should be easier to heal against, so long as the mage doesn't have 2k health.

Currently, Moldan's key isn't an issue. I like rogues, but for a DM north trib run vet, killing guard mol'dan in the first courtyard and resetting is no big deal. If they make the key instance only and drops don't improve, it does become an issue.

With druids, there's potentially less wipes with track humanoid ability too. Fewer patrols catch you off-guard. I certainly like that in DM north.

Druids are certainly preferable to priests from a warlock perspective. Give me druids!
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