05-31-2005, 06:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-31-2005, 06:33 AM by Bob the Beholder.)
Thread Necromancy ahoy!
Just had something of a horrific experience and would like to share very much.
Randomly decided to hop onto my orc warrior I haven't played for two months and go through the RFK run I had gotten myself prepared for before going all insane-o on my mage and druid...
After about 45 minutes of spamming to find a group, since all the people I had played with on that character ended up either level 55 due to my long absence, or straight up gone. Eventually, I find two mages, a shaman, and a druid.
So we go in, I do my usual, "Everybody try to attack the same target, and give me a few seconds to build aggro." So at the first mob group both mages run up and start charging up frostbolts while I'm still behind them... The squishies. They are pulling. With heavily damaging spells. >< But, eh, I've recovered from that before, it just takes some scramble... but once the spells are out and I'm into the 'ocrapocrapocrapocrapocrapocrap' segment of trying to keep stuff off of 'em... they go immediately into arcane missiles. Then fireblast. Then cone of cold. Then arcane missiles. And another fireblast. And THEN, against two elite enemies, one of them starts throwing arcane missiles at one, and the other starts throwing in random fireblasts and running circles around them spamming arcane explosion.
Oooh, and when they don't go for the 'deprive tank of aggro' route, the shaman starts pulling with chain lightning, and constantly throwing around earth shocks. Which, naturally, aggros more than expected, and everybody scrambles to keep the aggro off of me...
The whole time, I'm telling 'em, "Lay off on your nuking, give me time to build up aggro," and they keep on agreeing with me, and even going so far as to sympathsize with my situation seeing as they claimed to have each played warriors. But even then they both poured every bit of mana into doing as much damage as possible, expending every mana-draining, burst-damaging DPS-option they had, never once letting off.
The rest of the party wasn't so bad. The shaman, though he did decide to pull with chain lightnging a few times, seemed to only do so at the example of the mages, and he did break sheep and attack random, un-touched enemies sometimes, but he tended to throw down useful totems, add in some heals and some damage as necessary. The druid was the same, although he seemed slow and unused to healing others, but he still never let me down.
The worst part? We got through all right. Although I was out of practice, and didn't exactly have the cooperation of the party, I kept 'em off the squishies when it counted (managed the feat of holding down three enemies straight down to death while one mage spammed arcane explosion as fast as he possibly could, although that could well have been luck), and the enemies certainly DID die fast. I couldn't really convince them anything wrong was going on, 'cause, hey, we lived. But man it was stressful on the guy who builds his play style around being the first to die. And I guarantee you it won't work in any instance with enemies that actually hit hard enough to bother with.
Anyway, it was just a slap in the face after only playing my warrior with reputable players who would believe me when I say that they have a part in me keeping aggro. (Had a mage back in the day who would apologize for pulling aggro. Every time. Even though it was fairly rare, and she did a good job of skirting the line of monster-death and mage-death.) And, of course, after playing my mage, where I had always been careful not to pull aggro unintentionally, and always did everything I could to lose it. (I've gotten fairly good at doing all the damage I can without pulling aggro. I usually end up the last alive in my parties, when I can't sacrifice myself for the healer.)
It's always frustrating when you find someone who does what you do, only stupider. My guild on Gorefiend probably ended up all annoyed at me for spamming guild chat with rants like, "Holy crap, aren't they supposed learn, at birth, in mage school, that if you're wearing cloth, you DO NOT want to get hit!?"
Just had something of a horrific experience and would like to share very much.
Randomly decided to hop onto my orc warrior I haven't played for two months and go through the RFK run I had gotten myself prepared for before going all insane-o on my mage and druid...
After about 45 minutes of spamming to find a group, since all the people I had played with on that character ended up either level 55 due to my long absence, or straight up gone. Eventually, I find two mages, a shaman, and a druid.
So we go in, I do my usual, "Everybody try to attack the same target, and give me a few seconds to build aggro." So at the first mob group both mages run up and start charging up frostbolts while I'm still behind them... The squishies. They are pulling. With heavily damaging spells. >< But, eh, I've recovered from that before, it just takes some scramble... but once the spells are out and I'm into the 'ocrapocrapocrapocrapocrapocrap' segment of trying to keep stuff off of 'em... they go immediately into arcane missiles. Then fireblast. Then cone of cold. Then arcane missiles. And another fireblast. And THEN, against two elite enemies, one of them starts throwing arcane missiles at one, and the other starts throwing in random fireblasts and running circles around them spamming arcane explosion.
Oooh, and when they don't go for the 'deprive tank of aggro' route, the shaman starts pulling with chain lightning, and constantly throwing around earth shocks. Which, naturally, aggros more than expected, and everybody scrambles to keep the aggro off of me...
The whole time, I'm telling 'em, "Lay off on your nuking, give me time to build up aggro," and they keep on agreeing with me, and even going so far as to sympathsize with my situation seeing as they claimed to have each played warriors. But even then they both poured every bit of mana into doing as much damage as possible, expending every mana-draining, burst-damaging DPS-option they had, never once letting off.
The rest of the party wasn't so bad. The shaman, though he did decide to pull with chain lightnging a few times, seemed to only do so at the example of the mages, and he did break sheep and attack random, un-touched enemies sometimes, but he tended to throw down useful totems, add in some heals and some damage as necessary. The druid was the same, although he seemed slow and unused to healing others, but he still never let me down.
The worst part? We got through all right. Although I was out of practice, and didn't exactly have the cooperation of the party, I kept 'em off the squishies when it counted (managed the feat of holding down three enemies straight down to death while one mage spammed arcane explosion as fast as he possibly could, although that could well have been luck), and the enemies certainly DID die fast. I couldn't really convince them anything wrong was going on, 'cause, hey, we lived. But man it was stressful on the guy who builds his play style around being the first to die. And I guarantee you it won't work in any instance with enemies that actually hit hard enough to bother with.
Anyway, it was just a slap in the face after only playing my warrior with reputable players who would believe me when I say that they have a part in me keeping aggro. (Had a mage back in the day who would apologize for pulling aggro. Every time. Even though it was fairly rare, and she did a good job of skirting the line of monster-death and mage-death.) And, of course, after playing my mage, where I had always been careful not to pull aggro unintentionally, and always did everything I could to lose it. (I've gotten fairly good at doing all the damage I can without pulling aggro. I usually end up the last alive in my parties, when I can't sacrifice myself for the healer.)
It's always frustrating when you find someone who does what you do, only stupider. My guild on Gorefiend probably ended up all annoyed at me for spamming guild chat with rants like, "Holy crap, aren't they supposed learn, at birth, in mage school, that if you're wearing cloth, you DO NOT want to get hit!?"