This Thing You Call Aggro.
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Drasca,May 25 2005, 01:58 AM Wrote:Rogue: <snip>
Targets engaged: 1.5, one main one occassionally sapped/stunned

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One sapped, one (or two) gouged/blinded, two being pounded on with blade flurry, one kicked (granted this is just a short one and doesn't really count as a whole another target). This is partly how Eth, Taranna, and Shalandrax manged to come out of a massive fight where our tank tried to get us to run. Eth and Taranna also manage to chain fight like thet frequently because of innervate, nature's swiftness, roots, and hibernate. Play a rogue and you'll see we really aren't just 1.5 target classes. In fact, I suggest that everyone try out every class and see just what tricks they have that come in extremely handy when Bad Things happen. Every class has more subtle tricks than the ones that everyone sees in instances. The more you learn about other classes, the better you can play in a group. But I also believe that the more characters, the better so you can take that suggestion with a grain of salt. ;)

Quote:Priest: Healing, dispels party, and less often MC/Shackle duties. Generally doesn't pay attention to mobs at all.

If the priest doesn't pay attention to mobs, it's a poor priest. If you watch the fight rather than solely health bars, it's easier to heal. You can see incoming patrols and see who's going to be hit first, you can monitor the critters health bars and if you see a critter who has a tendency to run start to get low, you can start the mind blast before he runs and kill him. You watch who has aggro or is about to get hit. You watch to see if sheep/saps/charms/<insert CC here> breaks early. You watch to see if one of your AoErs is going to unload and will need extra healing.

Quote:Shaman: Totem, shock timing, and mana management is key. Earth shock interrupts casting, totems can do mob or party appropriate buffs, or interfere with what the party is trying to achieve. Windfury is great for warriors, but stops rogue crippling poison. Agility is better for a warrior/rogue mix. Fire Nova totems are good for trash mobs, but interfere with CC options like freeze trap, poly, charm and gouge. Their shocks are aggro heavy, which is a blessing or a curse. If aggro is too early, mobs might be on the shaman too fast, if too late it'll pop a CC. Done just right, shocks will steal aggro off priests, frost shock slow and finish runners, and spellcast silence pull when appropriate. All totems and shocks are very mana costly and come on timers. Shamans have powerful fighting juice, but not much of it over time. They play an off-healing role in general. They will heal, but only if designated such toward certain or all targets at the start or if primary healer falls.

How does windfury stop rogue crippling poison? Is that a bug? Or are you talking about helping mitigate enemy crippling poison? Edit: Foolish me. Must not have gotten enough sleep. The whole replace a temporary weapon buff deal So use something besides Windfury all the time or have the rogue place crippling on the off-hand. It still gets applied plenty easily on the off-hand too. Or at least it does for Eth.

Not all shocks are aggro heavy. Just earth shock.

You also forgot about stoneclaw for protecting squishies, chain lightning (for use away from CC mobs). There are also magma totems rather than fire nova. We also have to watch if the mobs (either adds or also at the start of a fight) have a tendency to sleep people or silence or whatever other debuff is used frequently in a fight - poison cleansing totem, disease cleansing totem, tremor totem, and grounding totem. This incoming mob likes to blast blizzard? Frost resist totem. These fire elementals have a heavy AoE fire damage aura that pulses? Fire resistance. Did these critters just put up a fire shield? Purge.

Shaman are most effective when they pay attention to exactly what types of critters, in what numbers and where they are attacking the party. If we just concentrate on party and ignore mobs, we're crippling ourselves and our party.

Quote:He noted and teased me, "Why didn't you warn me you use up all your interface buttons as a warlock. Absolutely all of them."

Try playing a shaman if you want to use up all your interface buttons. ;)
Intolerant monkey.
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