10-27-2004, 06:23 AM
Munkay,Oct 27 2004, 01:52 AM Wrote:Eh.
If you look closely enough for something it will appear.
Not denying the issue of global warming, but the "green house effect" is a hotly debated point. I remember a lecture an enviromental scientist gave; while fielding a question from a student he off handedly mentioned how ludicrous he thinks the green house effect is, before returning to the question.
I remember winters with loads of snow as a kid. I remember a large period of 'little snow' winters during the 90's in New England. But everytime people started murmuring about global warming, we were always nailed with a heavy snowing winter.
The weather and climate of areas naturally change over time. Its entirely possible that the world is getting warmer, but human kind's direct effect on this is questionable.
There are paintings by Dutch and Netherlander artists during the 1600's that show rivers being ice skated on in the winter. Some of these same rivers haven't frozen over in the last 200 years.
Eh, its possible, but I'm not about to draw conclusions about the enigimatic nature of climate change from my measely 20 years of insight.
Cheers,
Munk
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About those Dutch rivers, although I doubt it that the Rhine used to freeze in winter, that is not happening nowadays anymore, but other rivers and lakes still do. Our "elfstedentocht" a 200 km skating marathon over rivers, canals and lakes, was held the last time in 1997. Before that 1986, 1985 and 1963. Not very regularly though. It seems that less and less times it is possible to actually skate a lot here but in can also just be an impression.
About the greenhouse effects and man's input in this. It for sure exists, only Bush paid scientists don't believe it. :D This global warming does not mean that suddenly it gets three degrees warmer, it means a gradual warming up with a fraction of a degree per decade and this for sure is happing. Just look at the capacity of CO2 to absorb IR rays. The concentration of CO2 (we always learned it was about 0.3 %) is slowly increasing in the air, this has to warm the earth. But don't worry, in 50 years all oil is finished and we cannot pollute anymore. Of course also an erupting volcano or the eternally burning coalfields in china (and farts (lots of methane)contribute majorly.
The fact is, it is al equilibrium, you cannot expect to finish all oil in 150 years, and don't expect there to be consequence of that. That plus the decrease of forrests and other plants to absorb CO2.
The consequence can be not just warmer weather, but more strange weather. More hurricanes, more rains, more draughts etc.