Norway Killer gets 21-Years
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(08-30-2012, 06:17 AM)kandrathe Wrote: If the USSR wasn't communist, then by the same reasoning, the USA isn't capitalist. There are merely capitalists living here. Again, you are confused.

The big difference is of course that the USSR was a dictatorship and the USA isn't. So on the other hand it is indeed not completely fair to blame all injustice there on communism.
Just as it is not fair to blame the economic crisis on capitalism.

However, what we do in the west (and what they used to do in communist SU but the other way around) is not question the excesses of our own society.
It is never said that capitalism should create a division between rich and poor, but it does. It is never said that capitalism should leave millions of people without health care but it does. It is never stated that capitalism should ruin our worlds natural wealth but it does.

The sad thing is that in especially the US (much more than in europe) questioning a thing such as waste and over use of the worlds resources, or poverty will directly get you labeled a communist or hater of america.

We will get the bill for our earthpredation tactics and it will not be nice when it happens.

Regarding the communists; there is the problem of dictatorships. Is is never stated that communism should facilitate dictatorships but it does. Human nature is such that we are egoist who always want more.....so you will never manage to create a communist society without some amount of force. (which applies for libertarianism as well).

Anyway, now that also the former SU and China are in their politics aggresively capitalist we do need to shift the balance back a bit I think.

Which brings me to the following. It is time for a thread about our near (20-50 year) future.
Will we be able to deal with the consequences of climate change. (did you notice we talk less and less about this....because of the economic crisis probably......but that nowadays reports are not anymore about it being true or not but about the fact that highly likely we will not be able to keep the warming up limited to 2 deg C.
So this will means huge changes in our world. In large parts of the world coastal regions will be flooded, and hunger will become a huge issue.
So what do we do against this and will e be able to stop great wars from happening.....I for one am negative.


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Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Taem - 08-24-2012, 05:20 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FoxBat - 08-24-2012, 05:47 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by eppie - 08-25-2012, 07:23 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-24-2012, 08:09 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by shoju - 08-24-2012, 08:45 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-24-2012, 08:57 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Archon_Wing - 08-24-2012, 09:43 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Mavfin - 08-24-2012, 09:46 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-24-2012, 10:10 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-24-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by vor_lord - 08-24-2012, 10:52 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-24-2012, 11:05 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-25-2012, 12:09 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 12:24 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-25-2012, 12:40 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-25-2012, 12:35 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 12:49 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Ashock - 08-25-2012, 01:02 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 01:25 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-25-2012, 01:39 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-29-2012, 10:03 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by DeeBye - 08-30-2012, 04:09 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-30-2012, 04:19 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Zarathustra - 08-25-2012, 12:05 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-25-2012, 02:06 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-30-2012, 02:21 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-30-2012, 02:53 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-30-2012, 03:24 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-30-2012, 04:21 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-30-2012, 06:17 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-30-2012, 08:35 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by eppie - 08-30-2012, 08:54 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-30-2012, 09:09 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Jester - 08-30-2012, 10:01 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-30-2012, 03:03 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by eppie - 08-30-2012, 03:45 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Jester - 08-30-2012, 05:37 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Taem - 08-25-2012, 03:28 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by eppie - 08-25-2012, 07:42 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by DeeBye - 08-25-2012, 04:10 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by shoju - 08-25-2012, 05:49 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by eppie - 08-25-2012, 06:57 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Jester - 08-25-2012, 06:59 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-26-2012, 09:03 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by shoju - 08-27-2012, 05:42 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Jester - 08-27-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by shoju - 08-27-2012, 10:15 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Jester - 08-28-2012, 12:07 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by DeeBye - 08-28-2012, 03:42 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by eppie - 08-28-2012, 07:18 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-28-2012, 04:18 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-28-2012, 07:19 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by shoju - 08-28-2012, 02:08 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-28-2012, 12:11 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Taem - 08-28-2012, 01:09 AM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by shoju - 08-30-2012, 06:05 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by FireIceTalon - 08-30-2012, 08:49 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Jester - 08-30-2012, 09:51 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Tal - 08-30-2012, 06:38 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by kandrathe - 08-30-2012, 08:44 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Archon_Wing - 08-30-2012, 10:58 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Taem - 08-30-2012, 11:13 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Archon_Wing - 08-30-2012, 11:21 PM
RE: Norway Killer gets 21-Years - by Bolty - 08-30-2012, 11:30 PM

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